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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,631 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Ah all our old friends who have been so conspicuous by their absence from the forum the past week are back I see.

    There was always a danger of this today . No need to panic . The players should be given to the week off and allowed go on the piss to celebrate the National title they won against Galway last Sunday.

    it’s prob too late to arrange the warm weather training camps Galway and Kerry had though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Squatman


    Yea. In fairness to the team, they could have conceded the league final to focus on this match, and still have lost it. So good that it's only an unimportant early game. Other wise it would be like fr ted. Is there anything to be said for another mass. (Mass = Galway game)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    The fact Sam Callinan and Bob Tuohy spent the game sitting down in the stand tells you how serious management were treating it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    that hotel room you have for all Ireland weekend was maybe a little premature……



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭charolais0153




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Conroy O’Connor Carr Flynn O’Shea . 1 point each in. 2 games. After all our work. 5 points from forwards in 2 games. Just isn’t good enough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    I know, but if it was a serious knockout championship game they would have played.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I read somewhere that the national league winners will always be seeded higher than the team they beat in the final. How does that work if Galway win Connaught?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,686 ✭✭✭✭Cartman78


    Poor game, poor performance, poor result and poor weather.

    The team were deffo flat after the League Final and the Rossies had a game plan that sucked to watch but was effective on the day.

    I'm guessing the penalty was for a foot block (?) - my poncho left me with a slightly restricted view 😂

    The second goal looked sloppy as well.

    The last 10 mins were dire...we could have possibly taken a couple of points rather than trying to walk it into the goal.

    Fair dues to the Rossies I guess....they were celebrating hard at the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    That is if Galway won league final. They would be ranked higher than mayo in seeds even though they came 2nd in league



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Be-Jaysus


    I know people will be disappointed with the result, but they've probably given themselves a better chance challenging for the All Ireland now.

    If they prepare as well over the next 6 weeks as they did in pre-season for the national league Mayo will be there or there abouts at the business end..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Be-Jaysus


    Id also think Tommy Conroy should be used as an impact sub from now on.

    If he doesn't have an impact early doors as a starter , he tends to drift in and out of games too much.

    Cillian looks ready for the championship.

    Its all to play for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,609 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    The penalty was as a result of a "forwards" tackle, by our center back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,892 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    I'd agree on this being a good thing, we were always better off losing this game, gives us a nice break to get in a heavy training block and peak for the last three games of the year. I'd hope that we started that block last week. As someone said Callinan not coming on showed what McStay and Co thought about today. Delighted we'll have him for the U-20s.

    Having said that we got filleted around the middle today. I thought our sideline was slow to make changes and our forwards were afraid to take their chances.


    On the ref, I thought he was picky which was annoying but other than the hop balls with AOS I'm not sure he gave too many against us that weren't warranted, a bit like Joyce last week we see what we want to see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,892 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Watched McStays post match interview, he literally couldn't give a flying **** about that match

    Rochford never had much màs for the Connacht championship, happy enough for that to continue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    McStay behind the camera would be very different I can imagine given his connections with Roscommon, lives there and his children born and bred rossies. It's one match he wouldn't have liked to lose given the choice but would accept they were 2nd best today and can now use the time off to re-group.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,393 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Well done Roscommon, sickening to lose to them today but they deserved the win. Too many players had off days for us to win, particularly around MF, they absolutely cleaned us out on breaking ball.

    In the long run, it may not prove to be the worst thing but it didn't feel like that walking out today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,393 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Just watching back now - Flynn was brutal, his worst game in a long time. Mcstay had a great shooting opportunity on the D with 2 points in it and passed it up; similar to the Monaghan game, very poor from him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    Re the ref. I was at the match, and thought the ref was shocking. Obviously didn't have the benefit of playback. But watched it back last night on TV, and I didn't see a whole lot wrong. In the first hop ball, I thought Aidan pushed the guy. And for the second one, he elbowed the other guy. It was prob accidental, but it was still right in front of the ref. There are always those skirmishes in a hop ball situation, and the ref normally lets them flow. But I don't think the ref yesterday was wrong to blow up for 2 frees. Aidan was very lucky he didn't get a black for a blatant block.

    THere was some other challenges which could have been frees for Mayo - borderline stuff. But it was generally the Mayo players running into a bunch of Roscommon players and getting swarmed. Almot all refs will give a free out for that one.

    It was a really poor performance by Mayo. Couldn't do anything creative during the last 15 mins to break down the Ros defensive unit. A lot of headless stuff, and many players afraid to take on a shot. Wouldn't have thought Mayo had an extra player for the final 15 mins.

    I don't recall one decent pass into Aidan in the forward line in the whole game .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭muddle84


    Yeah I thought the same and it wasn't on the edge of the D it was right in the middle of the damn thing!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭muddle84


    To Look on the bright side, I still have great faith in this management team and they have just been given a fairly comprehensive list of what needs to be fixed or worked on and they have 6 weeks to work on it! Still disappointing to lose to Roscommon at home, but fair play to them they were the better team on the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,609 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I'm hoping yesterday was a real wake up call for management and some players.

    If a team is going to sit back and defend then is see absolutely no point in having Loftus at 6. His kicking (which we haven't seen a whole pile of anyway) is nullified and his weakness is exposed when those teams break. Any decent team will have this targeted by now.

    Middle of the park is a big worry. Flynn got off to a great league but is going the other direction. Ruane was bullied and beaten up yesterday.

    I've been a little concerned with Reape's kick-outs, but I don't think it's far to criticise them too much given that our midfield were cleaned out and the Rossies seemed first to every breaking ball.

    I think the 6 weeks could be a massive bonus if it gives them some thinking time. But we were going all out for the win yesterday and failed miserably.

    I haven't seen enough of Conor McStay but he doesn't seem to add much to the team. You couldn't script McHale's head injury, he seems destined to be unlucky.

    The one positive I took from yesterday was that I don't think I saw McLaughlin kick the ball. He looked as if he was about to late on but stopped himself and gave a simple handpass instead. It's not much to take from the match but it's something.

    The only other slight bit of solace is that if we do get to the latter stages, most of the better teams won't set up as negative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    Wouldn't have too many complaints on the referee either. That first free Roscommon got was a joke though. Are we supposed to believe no Roscommon backs were holding off the ball for the rest of the game when we didn't get a free like that?

    It wasn't a game for kicking into the full forward line with the wind and rain. Roscommon didn't kick anything either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    If coen went low and hard We would be saying how we should have been kicking in more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    Oh ya. That first free. I rewinded a couple of times last night to see if there was anything obvious from the recorded match. I couldn't see anything, but in fairness the camera was a fair distance from the alleged incident. Ref was obviously trying to lay down a marker that he could see everything that was going on. Presumably he got the shout in his earpiece from the other officials.

    But ya, you'll always get some level of contact between the backs and forwards. Frees are generally given when it is seen that the back is overstepping the mark and illegally prohibiting the forward from a decent chance of the forward gathering the ball. But in that incident I couldn't see any obvious indiscretion.

    On the high kick into the forwards, I don't think Mayo are cute enough. When a high ball is kicked into O'Shea, there are inevitablely lads pulling at him, But you'd never see any of our other forwards around him to give a bit of physicality back to the defenders. Why don't they try to block the defenders out of the way. At least in a way that might throw them off their game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    But even the chance for Coen came from a wayward ball into Aidan O'Shea. You couldn't base your game plan on accurate kick passing with the conditions yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Biggest problem was around the middle. They won very little all day and no one around to mop up breaking ball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,537 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I disagree. Mayo won a savage amount of Roscommon kickouts. Not only that the Roscommon goalie had a meltdown. Mayo did not lose because of lack of possession from kickouts. In the first half they did not use the wind well and did not kick points from distance.

    The last two points Murtagh scored were both excellent. One if them was from 48 meters out.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,596 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Mayo were afraid to shoot yesterday, that was their biggest problem, a lot of players hadn't the balls to take on the shot, a lot of the time in very kickable positions, Roscommon kicked points from harder angles and distances.



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