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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    Aircon was on, no battery heating. Started as I got to the crest of a hill. My guess is wind through/against something but not sure what.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Don't really like either of those, that BMW grille is unbelievably ugly, at least here the number plates break it up a bit. The ID3 is ok, reminds me of a golf plus though. The Cupra verison is better from the front but looks the same from the back.

    Most cars are pretty crappy looking, no one ever bought a Corolla, Qashqai, Rav4 etc...for the looks (I hope!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Sometimes the aircon makes a bit of whistle depending upon load, if you get the whistle again, turn it off to eliminate.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    That’s it. The MY reminds me of a Golf Plus. Didn’t stop me ordering one though in the fire sale 😃

    The M3 grows on you and has its angles alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    I think Hyundai lately are looking better, Ioniq 5 has great presence on the road, I even like the Ioniq 6, bit of a poor mans Porsche from the rear😊. Had an i6 for an hour last week and got a lot of waves etc driving through Waterford. Perhaps they felt pity for me..😁



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,210 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I think the Model 3 looks fantastic from almost every angle except head on….


    head on it looks awful!! The bonnet is too low and there’s too much windscreen..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Yes, I love the front view, but as you say head on is not the best angle..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Killer K


    +1 on this. Would add the large turning circle of the Y and that superior driving experience of the 3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭sk8board


    I think most people will look at the €2k diff in the base 3 & Y model and simply equate it to far more usability and more metal for similar-ish money, and buy the Y. If you’re buying a Tesla, it’s the sensible choice.

    as with any discussion on mass market products, we always have to remember that the vast overwhelming amount of generic €45k medium SUV buyers don’t shop around when they’re changing car. A family car is an object that fulfils a need - and because of the way Tesla doesn’t market itself, generic buyers may not even be aware of them at the point of making a decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭KrustyBurger


    I test drove both M3 and MY in Feb and I’m glad I did. I would have put money on me going for the Y all day long as it’s more spacious and higher which I like. However I ordered the M3 after the test drives much to my surprise! A far better drive imho, not even close. M3 suits our family as our kids are (mostly) grown. I get that the Y is better if you’ve a younger family and need more space.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,783 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I must be doing something wrong family-wise. The older they get, the more space we need in the car, both for them and their accoutrements 🙃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭KrustyBurger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Likewise, perhaps when I get old I will get a Model Y😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭td2008


    That was me, that looks a lot better imo

    I ordered the alcantara sticker things from greendrive so will see what they're like



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Thumper Long


    Absolutely correct, I only met 2 colleagues for the first time last week, they were both there ahead of me and were in the car park when I pulled in, in the MY. Cue, snidey remarks about mr millionaire etc, which seems to be a general public perception of how much they cost. Both of them were driving 231 Tucson PHEVs and the shock when they realised that they both spent more than I did on the Y. Both have since ordered Ys with a view to selling the Tucson’s which it doesn’t look like they will have much trouble with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭gar


    Long time lurker...

    What's realistic milage on a SR? I'm going from Kildare to Limerick cork or Galway about one a month so don't mind the odd splash and dash .

    Does the current 45k price include 'delivery'?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Think price is a little lower. €43,558. All prices include everything. Just click cash option at bottom of configurator page



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    You mean a RWD, the SR+ was discontinued a few years ago?

    Yes it's the final price, make sure you use a referral to get some free charging etc..

    Have a Y Rwd and topped up in Birdhill and made it back to Meath via M50 with 42% on Monday. Was 7C, wet and windy. Model 3 will be more efficient.

    From Kildare you'll get anywhere on the island with one stop.

    Evdatabase.org have real world ranges, or try abetterrouteplanner app or website and you can look at some regular trips. (Make sure to select CCS as well as Tesla CCS)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,893 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    This time of year you're probably looking at 350km if you drive her handy enough. Luckily for you on those routes are well serviced with superchargers at Birdhill for Limerick, Athenry for Galway, manorstone Junction 3 or Mahon for cork, 20 minute charge should be enough to see you home.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Also those routes are well supported by superchargers, pull in and 5seconds later you're charging. It is nice and stress free.

    Car will also auto route you via a supercharger, preheat the battery for faster charging.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,401 ✭✭✭Fingleberries



    I've got a 212 SR+ (with the LFP battery, so similar to the current M3 RWD with WLTP range of 491km). I haven't really been watching the real mileage on the car, just enjoying driving it and charging when needed. I'd say at a guess that I'd probably get about 360-400km on a full charge, but I've never really been too focused on that.

    Here are a few of the longer round trip journeys I've done as an example for range, I tended to start the trip with 100% from home (hope it helps):

    • North Dublin to Limerick (500km) a few times and just stopped in to Birdhill Superchargers for 5-10 mins or so on the way back to add a few % charge to be sure on the way home.
    • Dublin to Galway (500km+) the first week I had the car and definitely stopped to many times to charge - still needed it, but I was overcompensating because I didn't know the car or the charging networks at the time
    • North Dublin to Wexford (380km) and again just stopped at Ionity Gorey for about 5 mins to put a few percent in. Mightn't have needed it, but just to be sure.
    • Dublin to Enniskillen (320km), no charge needed.
    • Dublin to Sperrin region, near Cookstown (300 km), no charge needed.
    • Dublin to Belfast (280km), no charge needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,488 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    The price is €43,558 if you check the cash option and everything is included. That's for White RWD model and 18" Wheels.

    Kildare to Limerick would be no problem. Car is very efficient with realistic cold weather of 300 and warm weather above 400 without sweating on range.

    If ordering, be sure to use a referral code to get some free credits for supercharging or other goodies. If you know someone with a Tesla, ask for their code, or here's mine https://www.tesla.com/en_ie/referral/gary461147


    There is loads of info on here, but ask away if you have more questions.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,148 ✭✭✭wassie


    I went from Castlebellingham South SuC to the Athenry SuC on Monday - about 260km and used 90% in my SR+ (50 kWh NCA battery). Motorway the whole way at bang on 120kmh and was fully loaded with passengers & luggage. Once I left Dublin I hit a fairly string headwind that cost me ~10%.

    Just monitored energy consumption using the trip energy meter which eliminates range anxiety.

    MIC RWD/SR+ would do better than this with bigger battery I suspect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Bif


    An insight into which M3LR spec (if any) will get a VIN at the moment, while staying in the range for SEAI grant? Thanks.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭sk8board


    The good folks on the internet estimate very large increases in Tesla Europe inventory again this month (see below) after the big delivery push at the end of March.

    unless demand improves, or they shutter factories for periods, a price cut will be needed to shift the surplus. It’s very similar behaviour to what lead to the Jan 13 price cuts.

    tesla have a demand problem - Before Texas and Berlin ramped up in Q4 last year, they had a supply problem - California and China couldn’t churn them out fast enough, and the 3 & Y were new models.

    they’re now producing far more 3 & Y than they’re selling, and Tesla don’t have many levers bar price.

    I can’t help thinking they’ll drop the price, and need to do it early in the financial quarter.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭usernameunknown


    If they keep adjusting the price down then where does it end. Will it get to the stage where the market is saturated and stalls. Prices drop to a point where it’s unsustainable… I can’t see it

    dropping a fee grand off the price every quarter just pisses the last group who took delivery off. Aint a good model for building brand loyalty


    they have been constantly dropping inventory stock on the site over the past 3 days. Constantly adding stock on an almost hourly basis. But it’s selling albeit slowly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭sk8board


    There will always be cars getting sold, but Inventory is definitely backing up, so there isn’t enough demand - they either cut the price or stop building, and Musk says that delivery volume matters above margin.

    with the way the Y is swallowing the 3 demand, they are quickly becoming a 1-1.5 model car manufacturer, and that won’t change in Ireland for a few years st least.

    One reason Irish prices might not change is simply that just 190 M3’s were sold in Ireland so far this year, and almost all were because of the January price cuts, so the 3 volume here is not even in the noise level for our Irish market never mind for Tesla.

    the M3’s highest ever Irish sales position since it was released was no.26 in the volume rankings. It’s now a perfectly reasonable price of €43.5k ….. yet no-one is buying it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Few if any of the Model 3s sold this year were ordered after the price cuts. There was barely a Y sold that was ordered since the price cut either. Almost all of those orders are still waiting for their LR Tesla's.

    Is it not normal for car dealers to have stock on the forecourt? Anytime I drive past one they always seem stuffed to the gills with cars.

    If they actually can't shift them they could always take out an ad.

    Based on personal experience plenty of people still think all Tesla's are 100k plus and are amazed that they're cheaper than their Audi, BMW, Hyundai, Kia, Volvo, Skoda, Renault or whatever



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Not sure I understand your logic. These days forecourts aren’t usually stuffed with brand new unsold cars.

    Large manufacturers make so many models they can adjust production supply to suit demand.

    tesla only make 2 models, and the lead time is now very short. Most cars bought since the price drop are now delivered. I’m literally staring out the window at one :D



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