General Star Trek thread

TheValeyard · 07-04-2023 07:10PM

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I never understood why they dipped their toes into the final three books on Laconia when they knew the show was ending. Still some kf the best sci-fi since BSG

TheValeyard · 07-04-2023 07:12PM

A Voyager Rivial?

I'd prefer something brand new post Picard.

Give me a show on a Starship exploring the outer edges of Federation space in the 25th century. No universe ending sh1te, just mysterious discoveries, problems to solve, and occasional holodeck malfunction.

Rawr · 07-04-2023 09:29PM

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A Voyager Continuation maybe. Actually try to pull off the season-long Year of Hell that they wussed out of doing and turned into a 2-parter. Since the current trend are season-long arcs it might actually suit streaming.

Would seem needlessly mean-spirited to put the whole original crew through that. I’d say; put a Captain Paris and his sidekick / first officer Kim in charge of a new “Voyager A” and her crew. Then have them re-thread some of the places they visited before, but with some kind of twist. Maybe the Talaxians now head a vicious empire and are the villains now, and Voyager A need help from the Kazon (now headed by Seska’s kid) to survive. Something like that.

fritzelly · 07-04-2023 09:30PM

Voyager TNG - it worked before

pixelburp · 07-04-2023 09:37PM

I'd sling the Voyager chatter onto the same pile as all the other stuff surfacing of late, like the Dominion War show etc; seems the only one that might have legs is the Captain Shaw spinoff... which has been bizarre, speaking as someone who hasn't watched Picard Season 3, to hear about a facet of it people apparently love (a first for that series!).

Clearly whatever way you look at it, Paramount wanna make more Trek, and sense goodwill and enthusiasm for more - and more of a certain type. You'd hope the right lessons are being slowly learned.

Evade · 07-04-2023 09:38PM

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Paris and co. does sound good as an outline but I don't see much more than a season out of it.

For the bajillionth time, they should just do an anthology series to get all these little potentially interesting stories out of the way.

Stark · 08-04-2023 01:44AM

Yeah I'd like see some sort of short continuation to Voyager but don't have the appetite for a full blown series. Endgame ended so abruptly, didn't even get to see the ship land on Earth/crew beam off. We did get to see snippets in later series thankfully. We know Janeway makes Admiral, Chatokay (and presumably Torres) get pardoned and welcomed back into Starfleet. But what happens to the Doctor, does Harry Kim finally get his promotion to Lt. JG, how does the crew adapt to a Federation post Dominion War. What was it like reconnecting with family/friends after a 7 year absence.

Rawr · 08-04-2023 08:11AM

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Shaw’s a bit of a break-out character In Picard S3. I’m guessing he’s having a bit of a Pike effect and might actually get that spinoff.

For Shaw imagine a gruffier Lorca, but not evil, and occasionally pleasant. You get why he’s pissed off, which mightbe part of the appeal.

08-04-2023 08:19AM

There was a bit of rounding his character there.

Chastising 7 for not blowing the turbo lift and that small inaction could affect billions of people. He understands the stakes and showing 7 that she's not there yet.

He'll call her Commander 7 by the end.

Getting worrying vibes though that he'll do that as his last act before doing a hero death.

Wonder if they've accidentally brought in the best original character, since Flox, only to have them planned as a tragic death springboard for a 7of9 show...

Anyone else notice how much better Sirtis acting is when she's allowed use her normal accent?

Evade · 08-04-2023 08:31AM

The accent was Sirtis' choice IIRC, based on an Israeli friend of hers.

08-04-2023 08:34AM

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Yeah, she was told that the character needed an accent.

Would have loved to have seen her audition for Yar, with a full on "Landhan" accent

Evade · 08-04-2023 08:39AM

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When Sirtis was the security chief the character was Hernandez wasn't it? She could have gone full Fawlty Towers with it.

Bobtheman · 08-04-2023 09:38AM

This is depressing.

A voyager spin off? Yeah voyager had about 3 decent characters but overall the show was ****.

Starfleet Academy - it's a **** idea nó matters what century you place it in

A captain Shaw spin off? I'd like that. But with a well lighted set and stand alone episodes.

Let's wait and see

odyssey06 · 08-04-2023 09:41AM

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Sirtis is in a classic Minder episode pre Trek playing a Greek cockney iirc...

breezy1985 · 08-04-2023 11:05AM

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Not evil yet. There is still time for him to get Lorcad 🤣

flazio · 08-04-2023 09:11PM

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General thread. Please mind your spoilers.

breezy1985 · 08-04-2023 09:37PM

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"Wonder if they've accidentally brought in the best original character, since Flox"

Definitely not because the best original character before Shaw was Lorca . Until they "killed" him

TheValeyard · 08-04-2023 09:57PM

You're all wrong. Best new character is Badgey.

Evade · 08-04-2023 09:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120456129#Comment_120456129

Funny way of spelling Shran.

breezy1985 · 08-04-2023 10:27PM

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Badgey is way later than Shran so that don't make much sense.

Evade · 08-04-2023 10:28PM

Best new chracter since Phlox.

Rawr · 09-04-2023 07:40AM

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Halv expected an easter egg reference to him at Daystrom Station….along with Peanut Hamper :P

Cookie_Monster · 09-04-2023 10:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120456670#Comment_120456670

yeah, I'm disappointed about the lack of it tbh.

TheValeyard · 09-04-2023 10:50AM

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There's definitely room for him as Amigus, the evil AI from Lower Decks. All they need is his voice. But the AI story kinda done to death now with S2 of Discovery and S1 of Picard.

flazio · 09-04-2023 01:05PM

I'm currently listening to the audiobook of "The Autobiography of Kathryn Janeway" (it's read by Kate Mulgrew, how could I not). The canon purists won't like it though. Her first meeting with Tuvok is recalled, he's not named until after he dressed down the then ensign Janeway and her captain (another familiar character 😉) says "I see you've met Commander Tuvok" erm, Commander? Even Lieutenant Commander doesn't work here as he was only Lieutenant senior grade on Voyagers launch.

Semi related, had a bit of a smile and "I know that voice" moment while playing the video game Horizon Forbidden West. The playable character, Aloy can visit a settlement where the chaplain has the unmistakable dulcet tones of one Tim Russ. The game also features Carrie Ann Moss and Angela Bassett but whatever, bleeding Tuvok is a tribesman. 😃

TaurenDruid · 09-04-2023 03:33PM

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???

The message of Roddenberry's Trek has pretty much been "infinite diversity in infinite combinations" from day 1. Dunno what prompted the rest of your rant, but maybe chill a bit?

Bobtheman · 09-04-2023 05:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120458052#Comment_120458052

I apologised quite awhile ago for my rant.

However having diverse character's is one thing but ST seems overtly preoccupied with it.

It wants to promote extreme feminism see below

Bobtheman · 09-04-2023 05:28PM

Here is some evidence

https://youtu.be/FPSh-V4tedI

TaurenDruid · 09-04-2023 07:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120458660#Comment_120458660

Wait, what?! "Evidence"? It's some guy on youtube, ranting. It's... a bit dumb. He manages two whole examples. It's titled "The Wokeness of Modern Star Trek" and the first example - a female captain being a total jerk - has nothing whatsoever to do with "wokeness". It's a jerk, being a jerk. "Man-hating feminist HR manager" is all in Dave's mind, I'm afraid. "It's all done in the name of the feminist agenda - to make this female character seem superior and validated." Um, no. It makes her look like a total jerk. Sorry, gonna have to try harder.

Bobtheman · 09-04-2023 08:00PM

https://youtu.be/TNDmct-tLRY

We could be here all day with the evidence sunshine but you don't want to see what you don't want to see

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