Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Did you miss all the ceasefire violations and shelling of civilian corridors by Russia?

You dont see much do you.

Just wondering what will become of Russia, if Ukraine win the war , I presume sanctions will not be lifted, who would replace Putin, will it become a massive killing field , probably no one will trade with them either, probably a few more nut cases trying to get their hands on the bombs. We on very shaky ground now

I doubt very much that Putin ever dirtied his hands, never mind working in any kind of hazardous environments. But he does have one unbeatable and implacable foe : Father Time. Average life span for males in Russia is 71.34 years, and for women its 76.5 years. and this is best case scenario. Many Russians do not even reach the late 60's. I do not know what or even if he has any serious illnesses, but I doubt very much despite the best health care his stolen wealth can provide, his card is marked, and he 's not in perfect health.

pfft, hes working off his script. Let him. A different clown every day but they all use the same script.

He also tried to force European NATO countries to arm up and invest in their armies because of belligerent Russia.

That went down like a lead balloon. Lucky for Russia that Merkel was on the job.

If they had listened we would see a much greater supply of weapons to Ukraine now.

Merkel may or may not have been a Russian asset but either way she was the greatest aid to Putin internationally.

You have been in close proximity to the fighting yourself?

Sending UN peacekeepers and taking all troops out of disputed territory is about the only ceasefire possible.

russia won't accept any ceasefire where Ukraine doesn't give up a lot of their land and leaves russia ready to strike again when it wants as well as denies Ukraine access to arms.

Thus russia will continue to decimate both it's own economy and army while the world watches and NATO becomes more and more powerful.

If putin was reasonable, he'd have withdrawn after the 3 day plan spectacularly failed, he'd still have his oil money, but I suspect that he needs a foreign war to have an excuse to keep the russian people afraid to speak out against him.

Would the posters who want a ceasefire or peace accept the UN moving in and russia moving out?

The conflict between Russia and Ukraine has been ongoing since 2014. The conflict began when Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine and supported separatists in eastern Ukraine. The conflict has been fueled by a number of factors including historical tensions between Russia and Ukraine, ethnic divisions within Ukraine, and geopolitical interests.

While it is true that many Ukrainians are native Russian speakers, this does not mean that they support Russian aggression against Ukraine. In fact, many Ukrainians have been fighting against Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine for years. It is important to remember that the conflict in Ukraine is not simply a matter of language or ethnicity, but rather a complex geopolitical issue that requires a nuanced understanding of history, politics, and culture.

When the Ukraine Government is good and ready to talk, then they will talk, and not before. It will be their decision and theirs's alone to make. And rightly so!

Pity. You're giving away your age with this post. You had a good point, but then your post became teenagey, Genx nonsense. Have a coffee, eat some fruit, walk up and down the road outside for 10 minutes and try it again. You're letting us down here.

Lol.

Has ‘the West’ not presented him with a number of options as to how to get his gearbox fixed and he has refused them all to date?

So there was another forum troll screaming for talks.

It will be interesting to see if this will be the continuing trend in their scripts going forward.

“Let’s get them to talk!” “No more killing!” “Putin and Zelensky can be reasonable” “Common Since!!l”

I can of course be wrong about this, but my takeaway is that the Russians now know they’re peaked in this fight and will be lucky to hold their current creeping advance across Donbass. They are devouring their own army by fighting a professional AFU defence, and they must be concerned what a professional AFU offensive might do to them. If the Russians are very unlucky, a breakthrough anywhere on the lines might result in their Bakmut forces getting encircled and taken out.

The Kremlin now wants to appeal to the West’s hippy peacenik ways and inject the idea that talks are needed. Talks…so they can hold onto what they have, and buy time. Never mind them starting this conflict needlessly. Never mind the innocent lives destroyed in its execution. Never mind Putin’s leaked plans to systematically exterminate undesirable elements in Ukraine, which I fear Bucha etc.. was just a preview of. Never mind any of elements that put Putin’s Russia into the same category as Hitler’s Germany or Pol Pot’s Cambodia. We should talk “peace” with him, as if that word had any value to him what so ever.

We are being taken down another rabbit hole here by La-bev - a classical case of deflection, etc, etc, etc, etc. This Russian speaking thing has been flogged a few times in this thread and yet it is being brought up again. What has language FUNDAMENTALLY got to do with the present conflict.

some points on the above

(1) Donbas , Luhansk and Chrimea - the pro Ukr population —has been targeted and either killed , forced to leave the areas for their own safety or told to f—k off and then planted with people from Moscovy. We then hold a referendum and lo and behold it is passed by a large majority - most want to be part of Moscovy. Simple . ARE WE BEING TAKEN AS FOOLS?

(2) the English language is 100% associated with the UK so the UK have every right to attack any English speaking country- , The USA , NZ and Australia immediately comes to mind as do a lot of its ex colonies. Cricket, court structures/proceedings, etc, etc - which are very British- as practiced by a lot of the ex colonies further strengthens the ‘RIGHT’ for the UK to attack and take control of these ‘SO CALLED’ countries

La BEV - will you get up-the-yard and stay there with your tripe. By the way is the main gate at your Orwell Road pad swinging ok again?