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Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭usernameunknown


    I don’t really have one. I assumed the people to go to are those who are EV charging installers since it’s their gig



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    i've found some of the 'local' electricians dont want the extra work either.. i tried 3 before going with a ev charging install company.. the meter tails and earth rod needed upgrading in my case..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭usernameunknown


    I need the exact same stuff. I won’t be going to 2 different electricians tho. Will just find somebody to do the whole lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    i used ev power based in ashbourne to do mine..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭usernameunknown




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭crl84


    You mean the deal posted above? That's who I was going to go with for the Wallbox, as they do it for €599 (plus another €50 EasyGo credit):

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,261 ✭✭✭✭ted1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Evening folks.

    Have an old tethered Rolec 32A on the wall. Was a Type 1 for the Leaf, but bastardised the 16A cable that came with my Volvo PHEV and made it a tethered 16A Type2.

    I'll have a 2018 Ioniq by the end of the week, and want to convert the Rolec to a tethered 32A Type 2. An 8m Type 2 cable is €200 odd.

    Would I be as well off getting a new tethered Tesla unit for €500 and just swap the whole thing?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,261 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    If it wa installed as a 16A charger you may need to change out the MCB/RCB and cable. It all depends on the cable size and ratings


    it will effectively be a new install.

    for €500 it’s certainly one of the best value charge points



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Thanks Ted.

    The Rolec is an original 32A unit, and was installed as such. The changing of the cable was just for convenience on my part. Used a Type 1 to Type 2 adaptor for a while, but then converted the 16A Type 2 to Type 2 Menkes cable that came with the Volvo to a tethered cable for the Rolec. That cable is only rated at 16A, so even though she's a Type 2, I'd rather not be throwing double her rating through her.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Could you buy the Tesla 32A cable for €100, chop the charger end off and wire it into the rolec?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    If swapping over then a wallbox from Amazon for the same price would be a better buy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭usernameunknown


    Anyone familiar with the difference between Wallbox pulsar plus and max? Other than the max being cheaper and newer they are essentially the same thing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Yeah, already have one of them and was gonna do that. But it's not long enough. Story of my life!


    Which one would you suggest? Thanks.

    EDIT: The cheapest one I can find with a 7m cable on Amazon is the Wallbox Pulsar Max, which comes in at £714 including taxes and deposit. That's over €800. The Tesla charger is only €500.


    Post edited by Soarer on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Wallbox Pulsar Max Electric Vehicle Charger (7.4kW, Type 2, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, OCPP, Indoor/Outdoor, Earthing Protection, 5 Meter Cable, Easy-to-Install Design) Black https://amzn.eu/d/4Zvr5BK

    Cost €535 delivered last week when I bought for a friend.

    Or basic QUBEV charger for €300ish



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    think they were flogging them off at that price, been out of stock for a while and can't find it on their website now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Soarer


    That one has the 5m cable, so no good.

    Have one of them.

    My new thinking is see if the cable that comes with the car is long enough, usd that to tether to the Rolec, and use the Tesla one in work. Will only cost me the price of materials.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Gal22


    Got an EO Mini installed about 2 years ago for my ID 3. Just recently got Solar hooked up - 4.4kw system.

    At the moment to put excess solar into the car I'm having to manually either use granny cable or EO Mini by reducing AC charging function on car to 3kw, and keep an eye on the solar readings to make sure I'm not taking from the grid. Obviously not a viable solution.

    Is my only option to get a Zappi type charger or is there any sort of hack that can be done on the EO Mini to direct power to it automatically when there is solar excess. Have Huawei hybrid inverter, and also an Eddi installed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭S'


    What would be a rough cost for an electrican to install a Zappi?

    Picked up one for €650 delivered on eBay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    If you need no wiring upgrades I'd say 3 to 400 euro



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Affluenza


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    Good evening all, apologies in advance for a question that has probably been asked numerous times.

    Like a lot of people, I'm currently looking into have a charge point installed at home and was wondering if there were upgrades that would be needed? The house is ~30 years old.


    I am unsure if it has a 60 or 80 amp main fuse, I had the smart meter installed in 2021 and the charge point is planned to be installed directly across from the meter box, 1.5 meters or so away. This proposed install location will also put it only about 1.5 meters from the fuse box inside the house. I do have an electric shower and the house has gas but not a current supply. I am also on a smart night plan so the car will only be charged in the early hours.


    Any tips would be appreciated so I will have a basic idea of what to expect when I get onto a safe electric registered electrician :)


    And just one more short question;

    For the grant application, its asking me to choose which unit I will be using, if I haven't decided just yet (leaning towards the compact wallbox pulsar), do I need to wait until I have fully decided or can I choose one from the list but then go ahead and use a different one?


    Thanks again for any help :)



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Depends on your RECI.

    Easy to supply and fit them for €799 (nett of grant) so hopefully after the grant you’ve spent less than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Its hard to tell from pictures but your meter wires (tails) look like they may be heavy enough duty. If they arent they need to be replaced from the meter back to your consumer fuse board. You might need a new earth rod and earth wires run to your hotpress/pipes again depending on if its done already or if the existing wires are strong enough. Our house is 40 years old and needed upgrading. We had the earths done when we had the gas boiler changed but the meter wires and earth rod cost almost an additional 1k on top of the installation. If you don't need those done should be handy enough job. I'm not sure on the fuse question. The grant process must have changed slightly as i didnt have to specify when applying what charger i was going for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭eyeball kid


    Hi all,

    I have a zappi charger that has a tethered type 1 connection. A few months ago I bought a new car that is a type 2 and I had been using an adaptor to charge the car. However, just this week, it stopped working and I'm not sure if its the zappi unit itself (looks like it is still working), the cable or the adapter that isn't working. I checked the car using a different charger and it seems to be ok thankfully. I've tried contacting a number of different charger installers and none seem interested in looking at it. Is it straightforward to just buy a type 2 tethered cable and ask a local electrician to install? Or is it possible to just change the plug unit on the existing cable? Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Affluenza


    Screenshot 2023-04-06 at 11-06-25 Details Electric Ireland.png

    I just checked my electricireland meter details and does this mean I have a 100 amp main fuse even though the label is saying 60/80A?


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    Good morning, thanks for the reply :) You inadvertently also answered the question as to what tails where! The meter and fuse box are less than 2 metres away from each other so hopefully if they do need replacing, it won't cost a whole lot. The gas boiler was installed approximately 10 years ago so I can't remember what work was carried out to do this unfortunately. I do know they had to get up to the hot press upstairs but again I have no idea what exactly they did.

    Yeah, it is now asking which manufacturer and model it is on application so I think I may have to wait until I have finalised which one I'd like to use before completing the application.


    Oh, an additional cost of €1k would be less than ideal... I guess I won't know for sure until I have someone out to look at them.

    When looking for quotes online with the likes of evpowerireland, they ask for photos of the fuse box, meter cabinet and entire front of house. This of course would not be enough information for them to determine if it would be an easy install and I'd assume they'd have to first come out and have a look first before any work was to start?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Soarer


    If you’re based in Cork, I have an adaptor you can borrow to discount that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭eyeball kid


    Thanks for the offer but I'm in west Wicklow, close to Kildare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Yeah it's not really possible to determine everything from pictures. I knew my tails needed upgrading because two other electricians had called to look at the job first and said they needed to be changed but neither wanted the hassle..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Akula


    Any recommendations for a good installer in Cork?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Soarer


    What would happen if you had a 32A wall charger with a tethered 20A rated cable and plug attached, and you plugged it into a car with a 6.6kW onboard charger? Charger would trip? Cable would melt?



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