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Match thread Mexicans v Wildlings (Leinster v Ulster) Kick off 5.30pm 1/4/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,615 ✭✭✭OldRio


    BT having a melt down about the ref's. But to be fair if the English teams lose they always do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,615 ✭✭✭OldRio


    God that last 20 mins was muck. Ulster had no idea.



  • Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You’re taking the way Leinster played today in a knock out game played in awful conditions when they had clear superiority up front and claiming that’s the only way they know how to play.

    That couldn’t be less correct. Leinster have massacred teams in Europe and domestically multiple times this season playing some magnificent fast paced rugby (and Ireland team backboned by Leinster players won a Grand Slam doing the same largely).

    James Ryan said as much in his post match interview - that Leinster were disappointed to have to play such a limited game plan but sometimes conditions dictate that. They comfortably got the win today and that was the sole outcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    I think some of the reffing is poor, its putting the spectacle of attacking rugby above accurate application of the rules. The refs seem to be leaving loads go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Bobb Sapp


    I rarely if ever have seen long range tries of set pieces or phase play from Leinster this season. It’s a short coming and makes watching them boring. They hit on the break or go through multi phases and grind down teams or play the percentages and wait for opponent errors. Up the line, lineout mail cross field kick etc. Although I know that’s a generalisation without bringing out specific examples it’s my impression and it sucks, they NEVER score long range tries off set moves.



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  • Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well you genuinely haven’t watched a whole lot of them this season then.

    Go back and watch the highlights of them shredding the Sharks earlier this season, or the two hidings they dispensed to both Gloucester and Racing and you’ll see plenty of quality tries and quality attacking rugby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,877 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I'm delighted for Conan winning the MotM award. He has been under a huge amount of pressure from Doris and been the subject of unfair criticism in comparison with Coombes(who has shat it the last two fixtures)

    He's a super player and deserves to be recognised as such.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Bobb Sapp


    I honestly don’t believe any of the tries were long range backline moves off set piece or phase play. In fact I’m fairly certain none of the scores were. I don’t need to look at the highlights off those games. But I will, and I will report back to you later.



  • Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maybe try watching some 7s rugby while you’re at it? That might be more your speed by the sounds of things.



  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Mabel Numerous Gentry


    We shouldn't really mistake internet shite talk for anything real. He's miles ahead of Coombes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,680 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Horrendous conditions for a game.

    Conan was immense, Ryan and Porter not far behind.

    Great to see Stockdale looking closer to his 2018 self but it wasn't a game for wingers.

    Ultimately Ulster had a game plan to get in Leinster faces and disrupt us from playing. It worked to a point but unfortunately that requires a huge amount of discipline which they didn't have.

    Ulster simply didn't have the nous or leadership to turn things around when Leinster started to pull away. There was a moment on 70 minutes when Ulster won a free kick from a scrum in their own 22. Cooney stood there looking around for a bit and eventually kicked for touch. You're 15 points down and you... give possession back to the other team? They'd given up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Bobb Sapp


    Well why don’t you scratch your belly while you’re naval gazing at the incredible forward play we have. I’ve seen Italian soccer teams play more exciting football than the rugby Leinster have played. It’s the equivalent of park the bus football. Wait for mistakes and pounce on them rather than going out and creating scores.



  • Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You’re free to your opinion but it doesn’t make it correct, well informed or relevant to any Leinster fans here this evening.

    Good evening to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Madeoface


    Have to agree. He's really pulled his socks up. I like the look of Coombes and thought he could have had a run in the 6n but not so sure about that now. Conan was everywhere today.



  • Subscribers Posts: 43,412 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I rarely if ever have seen long range tries of set pieces or phase play from Leinster this season.


    well all thats say is you havent seen much of leinster at all this season then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭ersatz


    Yeah, I was disappointed with that aspect of Ulster's performance today. If ever there was a match to get in Leinster's face and force errors out of them it was today. Other than Keenan's knock on it just never happened. I really expected Ulster to make more of their size in the breakdown area but I'm not sure they had any breakdown turnovers (other than Hume's for which he got an undeserved yellow). And by the time the last quarter came along they'd given up. Cooney brought not much when he came on, although in fairness to Leinster, they had Ulster's number from the off and got their tactics spot on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,877 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I'm delighted with the win. I'll need to rewatch the game, bit from initial view I think Leinster dominated proceedings. Ulster only sporadically got the chance to use their rolling maul.bwcausw their opponents has the better of possession and territory.

    If anything, Leinster had the superior lineout and maul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    5 penalties in 3 phases of play in the 22 with no Card. Anyone thinking Pearce rode Ulster, is utterly delusional. Hume paid the price for O’Tooles total lack of discipline before being replaced. Instead of being carded like he should have been.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    I know you probably know you’re talking out of your posterior but just in case you don’t.

    highlights leinster v gloucester

    https://youtu.be/LKcofP_YvUs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,877 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Delighted James Hume was again on the losing side.

    He gives the big one too often despite playing poorly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,680 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    According to EPCR, Leinster missed one tackle in the entire game.



  • Administrators Posts: 55,166 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Ulster barely fired a shot, looked like a team that turned up just expecting to be beaten.

    I think that’s the end of the road for McFarland. We are going nowhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Madeoface


    The only positive probably from an Ulster perspective is that Stockdale is getting his form and confidence back.

    Not sure what happened O'Toole, was very good for Ireland in his cameos and I was looking forward to seeing him, but he was dreadful yesterday.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,131 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    This is a completely incoherent, self-contradictory post.

    In what world is practising passing and excelling at the basics of rugby a negative thing. How can a team that doesn't go out to win be unbeaten into April? 109 tries without creating anything?



  • Subscribers Posts: 43,412 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Yeah it's off the wall stuff. Completely non sensical.

    Of all teams in the whole world of rugby to claim play "negative" rugby, Leinster is literally the last team you'd pick.

    Post edited by sydthebeat on


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,131 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I just noticed some loony bin reference to POM having a teacher from Leinster and this meaning everyone from Leinster hated him in another post. I think this account can go in that same bin as every other re-reg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,230 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets




  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Mabel Numerous Gentry


    What I really want to know is how Leinster managed to simultaneously have 62% possession and 74% territory while standing off and waiting for mistakes. Seems quite the trick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Face facts, the only thing boring about Leinster is that they keep winning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭roverjoyce


    It's a form of sports washing, 4 teams from 1 country

    Only one with team with an unlimited budget, gets half their team paid for by central contracts, Has the pick of every young player to sign to a contract

    There has to be salary caps brought into provinces otherwise nobody will care or watch



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