The Kerry Babies Case

Well if they are shown to be the natural parents of 'Baby John', regardless of who killed the child, they have surely lost every possible vestige of respectability. The idea of staying quiet whilst another Kerry woman & family was hounded would be despicable.

The local priest made a speech that people should feel empathy for the parents in this tough time. I wonder did he know who they were and this was a bit more than a random plea for empathy.

To those saying they arrested before getting DNA samples from the couple; this will merely confirm if they are the parents. Genetic genealogy was used in order to track them down in the first place, using over 400 samples from local volunteers. The couples themselves didn’t actually need to submit their samples. If, for example, a 3rd cousin was identified by a sample (based on CM amounts shared with dna of baby John), then it’s easy to work back and identify common ancestors, build trees using traditional genealogy eg census records etc, and work downwards to identify who the parents could be. This would have to be done on both parents sides. It’s a long process especially as we aren’t allowed to use public databases yet here in Ireland, but it’s absolutely the future of solving cold cases (in USA for example a dna sample from crime scene is used to identify the perpetrator).

this is how genetic genealogy works, and it’s revolutionising forensic science, but there are limitations in Ireland as to how successful it is due to no public databases (ie GEDmatch, FTDNA) being allowed to be used. Yet.

and 70's. 60's, 50's, 40's, 30's

The hold the catholic church had over people was utterly immense. So if the church said it was sinful, you were exorcised by the community in general with that community thinking they were doing "god's work" thus thinking their behavior was for the better good and "sanctioned by god".

The harm religion does, especially fervent Catholicism, is unbelievable.

A priest didn't tell someone to stab a 5 day old baby to death 28 times.

The church was at fault for a lot of things but the only ones to blame for Johns murder are the person who stabbed him and those who covered it up.

So because something happened a long time ago it shouldn't be investigated?

If there isn't a realistic prospect of a prosecution, I don't think it's a good use of resources tbh.

Even with DNA evidence linking these people to the baby, there is practically no chance of a prosecution.

I would say most of said idiots have no penises! Have you been to Mass lately Mrs O'

Catholic Ireland is run by Irish Mammies.

Your right, the fathers of these children were despicable the way they just abandoned the women they go pregnant as were the parents of these women who abandoned them in their time of need.

The church were not the Nazi's you didn't risk getting killed if you ignored them and the only reason they had power is because people let them have power because they were lacking in basic decency themselves in the way they treated pregnant women .People want to pretend the church were 100% to blame for everything as it mean they don't have to see their own parents and grandparents for being complicit by being so pathetic to allow them so much power.