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The Tommy Tiernan Show Thread - Mod warning, see OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,972 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Great space given in that interview.

    Dolores is a legend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭LowOdour


    Those last few words by Delores really hit hard - sometimes you need to hear that things will be alright to keep head above water



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,674 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Did Tommy get his suit from the same place as My Cousin Vinny?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭spakman


    Dolores has a few of the most admirable qualities you'd want in a person - decency and honesty and humility.

    A legend of the west of Ireland, a wonderful singer and a throw back to the pure decency of the generation she grew up in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,259 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    "Who's our next guest, Freddie?"


    "Please welcome...Ryan Tubridy!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,907 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    This Scottish Animal fella is good, full of information and stories.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ragwort and Stones


    I feel I've something in common with this man..like him I'm an expert in birds😉



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Well able to talk this fella.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Nature is pretty f*cking harsh.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,972 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Interviewers dream. Very entertaining guest



  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ragwort and Stones


    That's a class post.

    She brings me back to the land and those qualities you mention of a similar time. I think of people who have passed many years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,299 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    MAybe but Humans can be so thick and stupid. Its a pity we do not value nature more.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,299 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    My that's a rubbish whatever it's supposed to be. Certainly not music I can tell you.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭spakman


    She'd be close to my father's age I'd say, but she reminds me more of my grandmother.

    She said she grew up with her grandparents, which wasnt uncommon, and I'd say she took a lot from them.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Singer reminds me of one of the gangster characters in The Simpsons.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,299 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    All right are we going to start a petition to make sure Tommy cones back next year.

    He is coming back next year isn't he?

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,907 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I absolutely loved that Doug (the animal expert) pulled Tommy up on being a miserable melancholic git. With one line - at the end.

    'I thought you were a comedian!?'

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Duvet Day


    I'm kinda shell shocked after watching Dolores, I've always been a huge fan of hers, I think that was an exceptional interview, there's just something very special about her, I really hope she finds happiness and content soon, she's a lady.



  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ragwort and Stones


    My father would by 97 if alive and I'd have vivid memories of men and women 20-30 years older than him, born around 1900.



  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ragwort and Stones


    Tommy a miserable, melancholic git is a bit harsh! He's trying to be thoughtful with his questions and it's not a comedy show.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭spakman


    Yeah, it's sad to think of her living a lonely life and obviously not very mobile. Someone who probably has no idea how many people admire her.

    I doubt she'd be one for board or twitter 😅 but I hope someone lets her know the reaction she got.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Yeah, I've an old dog that most of the day she does nothing but is there on the sofa beside me and I'm always aware I'm not alone. She is very vocal and barks for her food or wants to go out if I'm not getting things on time.

    I think with Dolores she would be better off with a cat or two as she has arthritis so would have trouble walking a dog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,518 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Becky headlined WrestleMania and won (WrestleMania being wrestling's Superbowl)

    She has shared segments with The Rock and John Cena etc., she is one of the most over superstar wrestlers ever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,596 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    He was being quite dismissive and patronising in how he asked some of the questions. He could have asked them in a more respectful manner, he was pissing on her profession with his attitude.

    Also throwing in 'were you lonely as a child?' question at the end was a bit odd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭jface187


    He immediately put Becky on the defensive as a guest. I'm sure she thrilled to go through the whole it's fake and the people who watch are stupid stuff.

    Becky is funny and if he immediately didn't go down that route she could have had the craic with him. Instead she had to defend her job.

    Tommy talked about wrestling being fake and people responding to something not real and could not get his head around it.

    Yeah Tommy I'm sure you lie or make stuff up in your comedy and people respond to it. It's no different.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Becky interview was the worst performance I've ever seen on the show - from Tommy that is. I remember him talking about his interviewing philosophy being about imagining a light inside his guest and trying to make the light shine, here he took the 'wrestling is fixed line' (obviously it is) and persisted with it for much of the interview. But for her grace and character it would have been a disaster of an interview. A missed opportunity to explore her amazing success and find out the genuine appeal of an apparently ludicrous realm. And a missed opportunity for her to give an interview in her home country as the person not the wrestler.

    As has been pointed out the last two questions about a tough childhood and being a loner were a kind of pathetic and way too direct way to ask about the person not the wrestler. Asking her how she wanted to be signed off as was bizarre, he spent 95% of the time effectively mocking the wrestler her despite her amazing success and we never got to know the woman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Oops!


    She a performer, actor... She even introduced herself with her stage name. That shite sells in the US, its all about the performance.... Sport is seen in a different way in this country. Fair play to her she seems to have done well for herself. Tommy was alluding to the attention side of what she does when he was asking about her childhood and lonelyness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭apache


    He thinks he's an armchair psychotherapist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Oops!


    Not really, he's just inquisitive.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I guess the point people are making is that these questions were too little too late. She's not to 'blame' for the difference between sport her and in the US. She loved WWE as a kid and is living the dream, more power to her.

    I also think the athlethism of WWE performance barely got a mention. Plus overcoming the challenge of having a child then getting back to the pinnacle of her sport is something men don't have to deal with.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭Jeff2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭gandalfio


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Oops!


    ?????? Wrong thread.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    I'll tell ye, he went down in my estimation last night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    Lazy excuse of show which doesn't put in research.

    Then sells that as a novelty.

    TV equivalent of giving someone a Lucky Bag as an Xmas gift.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Yes, same here. You could see that she was a bit hurt by his tone at the beginning of the interview. It was very, very poor from him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,299 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    You could say that but then with him not knowing who he will be interviewing untill he meets them means he has to but more effort into it. Kind of like going on a date. If the person you are meeting wants to know everything about you and not tell you anything about them it's not going to go very far. It has to work both ways some give and take.

    You see someone like Ryan Tubridy on the Late Late Show who seemingly has done research on people he interviews and yet he still makes it so dreary, boring and scripted.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,972 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    That's the USP of the show.

    I.E. That is what you the viewer is being offered, the joy of serendipity or not knowing where something is going to go.

    Nobody is selling you anything else.

    Not buying? Try something else.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    I missed the start of the first interview with Becky, while I was vaguely aware of her I have no interest in wrestling so wasn't aware how successful she is, I think she actually came across very well. I didn't think Tommy was being dismissive of her (Maybe I missed that part), just thought he was being inquisitive about how wrestling works with the predetermined outcomes and the US crowds lapping it up. I thought the interview with the nature camera man was great, he certainly has had an interesting life. And Dolores interview was exceptional, but hard to watch too, as she came across as someone who's very lonely and depressed with life



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,226 ✭✭✭✭briany


    To me, the idea that Tommy could say the wrong thing to a guest is part of the appeal of the show. That bit of jeopardy gives the show an edge which few, if any, other televised chat shows have. It can lead to beautiful moments and also other moments which have you thinking about curling up behind the settee. Sometimes in the same show.

    Tommy's of a generation who grew up on Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks bumping bellies, and there's a whole generation like him for whom that is their abiding perception of pro wrestling. I think some people are overlooking that Becky took that and by the end of the interview had clearly put across what it takes to be a top flight pro wrestler these days and left Tommy looking rather impressed.

    Anyway, that Dolores Keane interview was something else. If anything captures the spirit of the old Late Late Show, it's interviews like these.

    "Do you live on your own?"

    "I do"

    "How's that?"

    "Horrible!

    ....

    ....

    ....

    ....

    ...horrible. I wouldn't wish it on anyone."

    Jaysus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭take everything


    Yeah it did come across as somewhat disrespectful but she dealt with it well. I liked Becky. Great achievement (that seems to have gone unheralded) for an Irish person.

    I think the odd questions are now a feature from Tommy. I mean where did he arrive at "were you lonely as child" from what she talked about and presented to him up to that point. I wonder is there projection going on at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,299 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I only actually watched the last interview live last night.


    I just watched the one with Becky now and I think it was a great interview. Its certainly not not like what a lot of people on here have being saying it was like. I thought Tommy was very nice and respectful to her and they both had some laughts.

    I love when Tommy says he will be watching it and she says Do you wana come on over to Which Tommy goes no not that much lol.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Becky, I could take or leave.

    Camera man, great interview.

    Dolores, interview of the series.

    Can't wait for the next series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,226 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Yeah, Tommy sometimes asks questions out of nowhere, but I think that's kind of the point. Some interviewees will like this approach better than others, but an unexpected question can often give you an unexpected answer and that's part of why people like the show.

    Some people go, "Argh, why did he ask that question??" or "Why didn't he ask this question???" Look, he's only a human being. It's an unscripted interview and he'll go where his mind takes him. That may not be where other people wish the conversation to go, but that's just how it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Yeah I'd be a fan of Becky's and I felt the interview was more or less what you'd expect from Tommy. He doesn't know anything about wrestling and was skeptical about it which is fine. The childhood questions came a bit out of nowhere but he can be like that anyway. I got the sense he was warming up to her by the end and his interest was piqued a little bit. She is very successful in her field and is quite well known outside of Ireland. She's had a few roles in TV shows in the US outside of WWE.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Agreed on the jeopardy of the wrong thing being said being part of the appeal of the show. Its well worth the price of the great interviews it yields and the great interviews outnumber the bad ones 20 to 1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,518 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'd love a film biopic of Dolores Keane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,907 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    There would be a lot of drink product placement in it!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,907 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I was thinking there what Tommy badly needs on his show is a co-host. Someone to balance him out a bit and reel him back into the conversation when he 'strays' or goes AWOL.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,518 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    His missus?

    I think Tommy does his best, better as a solo host imho



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