Russia - threadbanned users in OP

One of the reasons the Ukrainians cite for wanting modern western aircraft is for air defence agaianst missiles. They view them as a highly mobile air defence platform that can be rapidly positioned in under an hour to places that might take days to relocate ground based systems to.

They deploy their existing soviet era planes whenever missile attacks such as yesterdays happen and they have had noted success in shooting down Shahids and some cruise missiles, but they believe they would have considerably greater success with planes with more advanced radars and weapons.

They have commented that the Orcs have been routing their cruise missiles to follow low terrain routes such as rivers, presumably with them flying just above their surfaces, in order to avoid exposure to the small handful of modern air defences Ukraine now have for as long as possible.

Western aircraft with look down, shoot down radars would probably improve their detection and interdiction of these threats sigificantly.

The reason Putin didn't fully invade in 2014 was because of the world cup. He didn't want to risk losing the right to host it as it was going to be his biggest show of power. I believe this event alone bought the Ukrainians some much needed extra years.

Not sure what to make of the latest missile strike. Is the use of hypersonic missiles and admission they're running low on their regular stock or were they growing frustrated at the amount getting shot down?

In any cases another month and they'll be no more cold spells until next November. I wonder will Russia build up their stockpiles for more massive barrages next winter or continue to burn through stocks over the summer?

No I think his fear in 2014 was that a full scale invasion might prompt the west into action. He did not expect to get away completely with what he did.

Basically in 2014 Obama sh!t the bed. Biden wanted action against Russia back then, Obama decided on scantions only.

The lack of any other form of Western resistance emboldened Putin. When over the next eight years Ukraine failed to politically walk into his fold he decided on the invasion last year.

They have ballistic missiles,not hypersonic missiles, all of the missles deployed against ukraine so far have been cruise missiles and ballistic missiles,the hogepodge of air defense systems is one of their biggest issues vs the lack of patriots isn't the biggest problem,none of the systems are multilayered and integrated with each other, it's why were seeing people on rooftops with manpads, trying to shoot down rockets,

Fighter jets won't solve the problem either, they need more radars and systems that are actually integrated into each other and a command and control centers who can identify and prioritise what's to be engaged and whats not

Link 16 is a data link and secure communications,

It's a not radar or air defense systems ,

Some of the defenses in men standing on roofs or mounted heavy machine guns on the back of jeeps or other vehicles,

They need systems that can detect and engage before missles make land from the blacksea and along the border with Moldova

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putins chef requires more ingredients for his meat grinder.

Just about sums it up!

are they "orcs" too?

I read this latest barrage of missiles cost 850 million.

At some point I can imagine Vlad trying to figure out if he can fire ICBMs at ukraine