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Is it a bit disrespectful to excercise a dog at the grounds of a war memorial ?

  • 09-03-2023 09:11PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭


    I was wondering others opinion

    I happened to visit the national war memorial garden in dublin a fewvt8mes recently. Every time i visited ,there were dogs there with their owners. One time with a Frisbee, another time a dog was lifted 5 feet to play in one of the empty fountains, another time a big Alsatian walking through the rose garden area


    Would you consider that a bit disrespectful or would you consider it much ado about nothing

    Is it a bit disrespectful to excercise a dog at the grounds of a war memorial ? 155 votes

    Disrespectful
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    Not Disrespectful
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Not Disrespectful

    Why would it be disrespectful? Dogs have served in wars for a long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭sxt


    It just wouldn't feel right to me to bring my dog to a place like that to play



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    Not Disrespectful

    Such a strange thought process.

    Baffling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    As long as they pick up dog feces I can't see a problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Yes it is imo. No one should be playing frisbee at a war memorial or messing around in the water fountains.

    But it is so normal now for people to draw a blank when it comes to any sense of the sacred that I wouldn't get too worked up about it.

    Exiting this thread now before some mouth-breather asks me for "evidence" that war memorials are meant to be treated with an aura of silent dignity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,848 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Disrespectful

    No problem with walking a dog, but throwing frisbees around is not appropriate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Not Disrespectful

    Would you be ok with people playing on the green or enjoying themselves?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭spakman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,848 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Disrespectful

    Why wouldn’t I ? We are discussing a war ‘memorial’ as opposed to a green though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭pauliebdub


    Not Disrespectful

    It's a nice park and people are free to use it to walk dogs and have picnics and generally to just to relax. I don't think many people go there to bow their heads and contemplate the devastation and loss of world war 1.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭thegame983


    Not Disrespectful

    Soldiers are made of sterner stuff. I'm pretty sure they would be fine with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    My sister had her wedding photographs taken there on a bitterly cold November day ,

    one of pictures is of herself on her own taken in black and white,

    weeks later when she collected her album , in the background of her black and white picture , there was a ghostly image in the distance of a WW1 soldier,

    and a dog , with a frisbee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Deregos.


    By that logic we should ban all children from going anywhere near the monument, especially if they're happily running around playing hide and seek.

    You'd prefer to see that we all bow our heads in faux solemn grief as we slowly trudge by . . . Nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Not Disrespectful

    We don't have a military we sent on imperial escapades, so no need to make up fairy stories about heroic cannon fodder or hide behind pious tabloid jingoism around military monuments.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Not Disrespectful

    The Heritage Ireland website (The OPW's heritage section) has a "Restrictions" tab for each location that they manage.

    The page for the National War Memorial Gardens (https://heritageireland.ie/places-to-visit/irish-national-war-memorial-gardens/) mention no restrictions.

    Some others, such as The Garden of Remembrance (https://heritageireland.ie/visit/places-to-visit/garden-of-remembrance/) say "Assistance Dogs Only" or "Dogs On Lead" (Grangegorman Military Cemetery: https://heritageireland.ie/visit/places-to-visit/grangegorman-military-cemetery/)

    Obviously people can have their own opinions, but the body that manages the Gardens clearly have no issue with dogs being there. That said, the presence of dogs and the behaviour of dogs are two different things. One should always be sure that one's dog behaves in a respectful way anywhere in public.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭sxt


    There is definitely at least one "no dogs allowed " sign at one of the entrances to this area, I presume there are more...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Not Disrespectful

    Google Street View shows an "All Dogs Must Be Kept on Leads" sign

    Screenshot 2023-03-09 at 22.30.45.png




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭sxt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,537 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Not Disrespectful

    I regularly walk my dog in the war memorials (early) and have for many years. Rarely go to the actual war memorial part at the top...but I do occasionally...I don't see what the issue is?! I pick up after my dog obviously I am not an absolute tosser.

    During the summer people regularly drink, play games (even play music...which is a bit annoying to me tbh because the music is awful) etc in that part is that disrespectful too? Are you going to give out to them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Not Disrespectful

    Bring a dog for a walk in the memorial park sure, but just try to be sensible about it. Playing frisbee or letting them play in a water fountain is a bit too much, and make sure to clean up if it goes to the toilet. Other than that, as long as it's kept on a leash and is well behaved then I would have no problem with having dogs in a memorial park.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603


    Disrespectful

    Went with disrespectful. But only barely. I probably wouldnt notice without it being pointed out.

    As a rule the public will always eventually end up taking the piss. There will have been a time where having the dog in the fountain was a bit much.

    Next it will be a barbeque and some bluetooth speakers, only having some craic like, whats the problem ye spoilsport.

    So yeah, if theres to be a line drawn at all then its probably around about now, or just dont bother and redesignate it as a barbeque disco park.

    If its a memorial then the whole point is for it to be a place of a certain separate atmosphere. If its to be a barbeque disco park then fair enough, but just put the memorial somewhere else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Not Disrespectful

    I would guess,that soldiers would be glad to see happy people and their pets..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,047 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Disrespectful

    Being cynical, people may have more of a problem with someone playing with a dog in the Garden of Remembrance as opposed to the War Memorial Gardens...some conflicts seem to matter more than others.

    Anyhow many people with "fur babies" seem to ignore signage telling them to have their "babies" on leads in designated areas. Ah but my "doggo" is very well trained...cue owner shouting themselves hoarse while dog gleefully ignores them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Not Disrespectful

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,846 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    The people whom we are remembering laughed, played, had dreams and did all the things we do. Do you think they’d want a place dedicated to their memory to be a sad boring place where nobody goes? It would be a God awful place. So enjoy all the park has to offer, but spare a thought and a little prayer, if you wish, for those who did not get share it with you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Not Disrespectful

    Couldn't have said it better, have a great uncle buried there and knowing what little I know of him, I'd be thinking he liked his dogs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,761 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Not Disrespectful

    One of about ten gazillion laws that are routinely broken in Ireland (Hello urban speed limits!!).....


    people in glasshouses etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,938 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Not Disrespectful

    What better way to respect the people who died for the country than to enjoy yourself in said country.

    I would have some serious problems with the behavior of people and their dogs in parks but that's all parks not just the "sacred" ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭corner of hells




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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,407 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Not Disrespectful

    It's not a graveyard like.

    I'm sure lots of the war dead were dog lovers and would love nothing more that to see dogs having a laugh.



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