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Is it a bit disrespectful to excercise a dog at the grounds of a war memorial ?

sxt

I was wondering others opinion

I happened to visit the national war memorial garden in dublin a fewvt8mes recently. Every time i visited ,there were dogs there with their owners. One time with a Frisbee, another time a dog was lifted 5 feet to play in one of the empty fountains, another time a big Alsatian walking through the rose garden area

Would you consider that a bit disrespectful or would you consider it much ado about nothing

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Jequ0n

Why would it be disrespectful? Dogs have served in wars for a long time.

sxt

It just wouldn't feel right to me to bring my dog to a place like that to play

HazeDoll

Such a strange thought process.

Baffling.

ZX7R

As long as they pick up dog feces I can't see a problem.

growleaves

Yes it is imo. No one should be playing frisbee at a war memorial or messing around in the water fountains.

But it is so normal now for people to draw a blank when it comes to any sense of the sacred that I wouldn't get too worked up about it.

Exiting this thread now before some mouth-breather asks me for "evidence" that war memorials are meant to be treated with an aura of silent dignity.

Strumms

No problem with walking a dog, but throwing frisbees around is not appropriate.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120337366#Comment_120337366

Would you be ok with people playing on the green or enjoying themselves?

spakman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120337340#Comment_120337340

Sacred?

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120337384#Comment_120337384

Why wouldn’t I ? We are discussing a war ‘memorial’ as opposed to a green though.

pauliebdub

It's a nice park and people are free to use it to walk dogs and have picnics and generally to just to relax. I don't think many people go there to bow their heads and contemplate the devastation and loss of world war 1.

thegame983

Soldiers are made of sterner stuff. I'm pretty sure they would be fine with it.

corner of hells

My sister had her wedding photographs taken there on a bitterly cold November day ,

one of pictures is of herself on her own taken in black and white,

weeks later when she collected her album , in the background of her black and white picture , there was a ghostly image in the distance of a WW1 soldier,

and a dog , with a frisbee.

Deregos.

By that logic we should ban all children from going anywhere near the monument, especially if they're happily running around playing hide and seek.

You'd prefer to see that we all bow our heads in faux solemn grief as we slowly trudge by . . . Nonsense.

Montage of Feck

We don't have a military we sent on imperial escapades, so no need to make up fairy stories about heroic cannon fodder or hide behind pious tabloid jingoism around military monuments.

Gregor Samsa

The Heritage Ireland website (The OPW's heritage section) has a "Restrictions" tab for each location that they manage.

The page for the National War Memorial Gardens (https://heritageireland.ie/places-to-visit/irish-national-war-memorial-gardens/) mention no restrictions.

Some others, such as The Garden of Remembrance (https://heritageireland.ie/visit/places-to-visit/garden-of-remembrance/) say "Assistance Dogs Only" or "Dogs On Lead" (Grangegorman Military Cemetery: https://heritageireland.ie/visit/places-to-visit/grangegorman-military-cemetery/)

Obviously people can have their own opinions, but the body that manages the Gardens clearly have no issue with dogs being there. That said, the presence of dogs and the behaviour of dogs are two different things. One should always be sure that one's dog behaves in a respectful way anywhere in public.

sxt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120337654#Comment_120337654

There is definitely at least one "no dogs allowed " sign at one of the entrances to this area, I presume there are more...

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120338125#Comment_120338125

Google Street View shows an "All Dogs Must Be Kept on Leads" sign

sxt

This is the one i saw

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5645/22034332481_6de06a07f8_b.jpg

gmisk

I regularly walk my dog in the war memorials (early) and have for many years. Rarely go to the actual war memorial part at the top...but I do occasionally...I don't see what the issue is?! I pick up after my dog obviously I am not an absolute tosser.

During the summer people regularly drink, play games (even play music...which is a bit annoying to me tbh because the music is awful) etc in that part is that disrespectful too? Are you going to give out to them?

Riddle101

Bring a dog for a walk in the memorial park sure, but just try to be sensible about it. Playing frisbee or letting them play in a water fountain is a bit too much, and make sure to clean up if it goes to the toilet. Other than that, as long as it's kept on a leash and is well behaved then I would have no problem with having dogs in a memorial park.

85603

Went with disrespectful. But only barely. I probably wouldnt notice without it being pointed out.

As a rule the public will always eventually end up taking the piss. There will have been a time where having the dog in the fountain was a bit much.

Next it will be a barbeque and some bluetooth speakers, only having some craic like, whats the problem ye spoilsport.

So yeah, if theres to be a line drawn at all then its probably around about now, or just dont bother and redesignate it as a barbeque disco park.

If its a memorial then the whole point is for it to be a place of a certain separate atmosphere. If its to be a barbeque disco park then fair enough, but just put the memorial somewhere else.

xhomelezz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120337340#Comment_120337340

I would guess,that soldiers would be glad to see happy people and their pets..

whisky_galore

Being cynical, people may have more of a problem with someone playing with a dog in the Garden of Remembrance as opposed to the War Memorial Gardens...some conflicts seem to matter more than others.

Anyhow many people with "fur babies" seem to ignore signage telling them to have their "babies" on leads in designated areas. Ah but my "doggo" is very well trained...cue owner shouting themselves hoarse while dog gleefully ignores them.

Graces7

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Jim2007

The people whom we are remembering laughed, played, had dreams and did all the things we do. Do you think they’d want a place dedicated to their memory to be a sad boring place where nobody goes? It would be a God awful place. So enjoy all the park has to offer, but spare a thought and a little prayer, if you wish, for those who did not get share it with you.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120338962#Comment_120338962

Couldn't have said it better, have a great uncle buried there and knowing what little I know of him, I'd be thinking he liked his dogs.

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120338163#Comment_120338163

One of about ten gazillion laws that are routinely broken in Ireland (Hello urban speed limits!!).....

people in glasshouses etc.

breezy1985

What better way to respect the people who died for the country than to enjoy yourself in said country.

I would have some serious problems with the behavior of people and their dogs in parks but that's all parks not just the "sacred" ones.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120339485#Comment_120339485

In Islandbridge ?

artanevilla

It's not a graveyard like.

I'm sure lots of the war dead were dog lovers and would love nothing more that to see dogs having a laugh.