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Potential for €10 congestion charge, parking increases of 400% and a 20kmh reduction in speed limits

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,443 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    You stated "they should walk or cycle", that was your answer.... my point is that walking or cycling isn't possible for large sections of our population..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,615 ✭✭✭fliball123


    Well because since then we have seen a huge increase in the population living here and most of the increase is concentrated in the large cities or within an hour or 2 driving time from them, we have seen a record number of jobs (a high % in Dublin), We have seen an increase in cars on the road and we have been through a pandemic which brought about lockdowns and other things like working from home. So as things like this change patterns also change. Case in point our current housing issues. In 2014 no one was shouting about a housing crisis now where they? So when you come back to me with a figure for anywhere from 2021 to today there is no point talking about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,615 ✭✭✭fliball123


    Well if they have no car and have a bike then I reckon that is what a lot people will do.. I know if I had a bike and had to travel less than 10k I would bike it or walk it but I doubt people heading in the twilight of their lives will do this due to ailments and the likes. The other poster was asking what do people who cant walk do to get around?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,443 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Cycling sounds great and all, but there's no secure bicycle parking around many shops and workplaces, even if there's bicycle racks you still have to carry around a lock the size of a boat anchor or you'll have some scrote with an angle grinder cutting through your lock in 30 seconds..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,124 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    No I’m using my eyes.

    Are you trying to say the motorways aren’t ground to a halt at rush hour on the incoming side to Dublin?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,103 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I agree with this, it is completely frustrating. Taxis should be banned from most bus lanes. Camera enforcement is the way forward to deal with the private cars.

    One thing you forgot to mention were the cyclists who delight in slowing down buses in bus lanes, they are a curse as well.

    Of course, most road users don't behave in these ways, but it is the minority of all types who cause the problems in the bus lanes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    The biggest issue with the adoption of electric cars is supply. A chronic shortage means those targets are unrealistic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    I have no idea why someone would spoil a vote. It was the same messing last time with people voting for SF just to piss off FF/FG and in reality the only one losing out is the voters

    Personally in terms of house I have no plans to fit a heat pump. People seem to think it is all or nothing which is incorrect. My house isn't and probably never will be heat pump friendly. What I am doing is slowing upgrading as I go along with insulation is king policy.

    If you think they have left the dressing room that could be true, the people I talk to are aware of the Green agenda, they agree with parts of it and disagree with other. None of them are doing deep retrofits but similar to myself are upgrading as they go along. Small upgrades can have huge affects but of course off topic.

    Instead of making a statement like we have no other way, the question should be why can't we use public transport? what is required in our area to make it viable and in the net election ask the TD's begging for your vote if they can deliver



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,365 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle



    There were a number of judicial reviews of the project because An Bord Pleanala failed to consider the relevant legislation when making their original decision. Judicial reviews were taken by Friends of the Environment, the Galway Race Committee, and Brooks Timber & Building Supplies LTD

    You are claiming that her actions led to this but from a quick search, she is not involved with any of these groups. The article you linked to doesn't state that she took a court case either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    Thats a greenway, not a cycle lane as you claimed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Ah here who's talking nonsense.

    Yes I "try" public transport on a weekly basis. I find it generally works pretty well but it's obviously not perfect. I also walk and cycle. I also drive if for example I have to get stuff in Woodie's or whatever.

    Not sure how you got "every one in a car is a lazy git" from my post. I specifically it's to target journeys that can be easily made by alternative means. And yes that might mean public transport or cycling or scooting or whatever your preference is.

    Everything you suggested about buses is exactly what's in the bus connects plan. You should have a look at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    Agreed far too much on the little guy. It's awful and putting people in a terrible position.

    WFH as a transport solution, or part of the solution, seemingly abandoned and at least 100 million of our taxes thrown away at useless remote hubs.

    The national retrofit scheme looks like a nightmare, reports of massive gouging.

    It'll turn people against environmentalism and I think most people are willing to do what they can.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    No I didn't. I was responding to a specific post about building new trains etc and I was pointing out they require more taxes.

    No matter what has gone on before we will need to invest to build public transport, that money need to come from taxes. I don't know if that is additional or if they can use current. But wating millions/billions on more roads is not the answer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    WFH is far from abandoned and as I gave an example my company and plenty of others now have a full WFH policy. This cannot and should not be ignored.

    I have no idea if the hubs are used because the policy we have is WFH and if required to work from a location then you go to an office, not a hub. One of the reasons is for security reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    You said it was a cycle lane. It is not so I would have expected you to admit the error but such is the way online



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    9 month planning delay announced re Dart + West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,615 ✭✭✭fliball123


    This is the thing. I think most people accept that the globe has an issue with regards to CO2 emissions and if they had a way to reduce the emission's that would significantly impact on the globe they would do so as long as it does not impact on other areas of their life like their health (asking a 70 year old to bike 10 km is just not going to happen) or further impact their pocket (its not like we are currently experiencing a cost of living crisis) but because of our high tax nature (when all taxes and charges come into play into our lovely little country we pay through the nose in taxation) and when you balance up the return (pretty bad public services in a lot of areas including public transport) and in order to have decent services your paying again out of after tax monies like going to the GP. then we have the people in gov come up with a solution that will charge workers commuting to Dublin to work a further tax as a viable solution to a global issue you cant help but think WTF. Its a complete joke then of course you have the juxtaposition of the government ministers heading off on the jollies for paddys day all using airplanes I mean Ryaner has the comedic timing of a heart attack with this report. So the underlining question is why is their one rule for the political elite and 1 for the rest of us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    The government plan a year or two back was to bring about a 'transformative' shift to wfh.

    That has been abandoned.

    Yes, some companies are still offering it. Mine included. Thankfully if these charges are introduced they won't impact me but I still thing it's entirely the wrong way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,527 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    what one rule do you have to abide to that politicians don't? you have a car don't you? everyone in ireland flies too, just like eamon, passenger numbers are going up and up



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    Nobody is asking a 70 year old to cycle a bike, unless they want to of course, plenty of 70 year old still cycle. If a person that old needs to travel that distance, if they cannot walk/cycle etc we have mobility scooters etc. We are not in the dark ages anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    No it hasn't. The government cannot and should not tell a company what their policy is to WFH.

    The government have recommended it and as you have confirmed you have availed of it. My company had a large office with 900+ people in it Monday - Friday 9-5...thats now gone with those 900 only required a max of 2 days per week. So thats gone from 9000 trips a week to office to 3600. Not a bad start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    It's a Greenway, not a cycle lan as you claimed. Will leave it at that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    The government has declared a climate emergency. Why shouldn't it have the power to legislate for WFH?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    Maybe they should just 'incentivize' it on the employer and not the employee the way this is planned?

    The fact they brought in a 20% wfh for public servants tells me they've abandoned it, or maybe it was just nice sounding spin in the first place.

    I bet a lot of people with a long commute facing these potential charges would feel they should be able to work from home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    Well I know a number of public servants who are more or less full time WFH now. Others are not but that is because of the job they do.

    I bet a lot of people would love to WFH, I would expect everyone. That doesn't mean they could or should WFH. As I said it is up to the company to make that call.

    But we are going off topic, at least we can confirm that WFH policy is available and people are currently using it that didn't have the option before. I expect this to increase in the years to come



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    Well I'm fine with the principal of polluter pays, but where you're just trying to get to work, and without a viable alternative, it's all wrong.

    In this case anyway I think you'd have to look at the employer as the polluter.

    If the job can be done from home that is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    Well most employers are looking to be carbon neutral by X, I know we are. WFH is part of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    It's a greenway, having previously lived in that area it will be a welcome addition to the population

    You posted a link to an article with the heading

    "Why is a 2.1km section of the Royal Canal Greenway costing €30.8 million?"




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    But sure lots of us are looking to be carbon neutral by x. Can we drop the talk of these taxes so?



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