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Looks like a rough outline of what they want to cling onto. As far as Putin is concerned Russia is "up" in this war.

Holding the Russians at the current lines seems too big an ask when the reality of the situation is that the Russians are actually making progress in the Donbass.

I'm highly sceptical of these western commitments of heavy arms. Seems it's popular and very easy to promise when you don't really believe Ukraine can hold out and thus your commitments will never have to be honored.

Hope i'm wrong on that.

They aren't making progress bar bakhmut they are failing,if bakhmut Falls soon they will have achieved a 1% increase of the territory they held 12 months ago,

Just look at the sheer number of trenches they have built along the coastline of Crimea it suggests that they are preparing a last Stand on the beaches of Crimea or they are afraid the Ukrainians are going to attempt an amphibious assault on the Crimean peninsula and catch them in a pincher,

Most of the other fortifications are being constructed close to Crimea via Kherson,

I think they know if the Ukrainan start a mass counter offensive the Russian lines will collapse and chaos will ensue

Well on a Telegram channel comment fest on that video, a few people asked if he was dead and the reply was another video being posted, presumably featuring Ti Balls as lead character and the rest of his muddied mates from the encounter.

So if the reply I saw was accurate, it might be he survived and is this guy:

I certainly hope so.

I have repeatedly expressed concern and horror at the deaths of Ukrainians in this war and condemned the war brought about by Putin. My position as always is to hope for peace rather than the slaughter of any soldier. The desire for slaughter and death on this thread is concerning

No, not just Russians, but any other nationalities' either that are helping them in their murderous illegal campaign. And you? What do you wish for them?

Looked like there was movement in the trench behind him at one point in the video.

Is it possible the orcs could have run out of ammo and simply ****ed off leaving him and anyone else alive?

Whatever the final outcome, that video must be one of the most powerful posted here - a soldier fighting for his life, his brother's lives and for the lives of everyone in his country.

Dead or alive, that man exemplifies courage under fire.

The majority on this thread desires a peaceful russian withdrawal and the end to all hostilities with Ukraine becoming sovereign again with 0 deaths on either side.

Below that is the desire for the invaders to lose in the fastest way possible without taking any Ukrainian lives.

If that means that 100,000 invaders die per Ukrainian, so be it, people will be unapologetic about that. Every invader that is stopped from fighting brings the end of the war and peace closer.

If you're serious about wishing for peace, outline your peace plan for everyone and then we'll see how committed to peace you really are.

I don’t think anyone has the solution at this time. Are Russia going to withdraw to the border? Highly unlikely. Is a Ukrainian offensive likely? Yes, when that will be, what it will achieve and at what cost who knows.

Our own country was occupied by a foreign force and it ended with a split country as we all know without a full return of territory. Ruling out any option shouldn’t be done at this stage.

Not really. In the event of a slaughter of Russian forces will that alone bring lasting peace? I think that’s unlikely. In the long term a diplomatic solution will need to be found

Update from Denys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vLOAdQSwk

The interesting thing about many of these people who 'just want peace' is that they're placing obligation of offering the olive branch on the invaded rather than invader. Not that it would be the first time in history that an invaded state has had to sue for peace and settle for a loss of territory, but in this case there are some incorrect assumptions underpinning the argument like, 1) that Ukraine is about to be militarily defeated, 2) that Russia acts in good faith or 3) that Russia would be even interested in a lasting peace.

Ultimately, this is all up to the Ukrainians. Zelenskyy cannot prosecute a war if his people don't want to fight it, just as the Afghan National Army succumbed in almost no time to the Taliban, despite having all this supposed training and gear.

But the Ukrainian people do (by and large) want to fight Russia off. That only leaves the question of whether the West should keep supplying military aid. There are those who say that by supplying all of this aid, the suffering is only prolonged. What these people completely fail to understand is the suffering exacted by withdrawing that aid and the unthinkably bloody, brutal ethnic cleansing, i.e. a systematic genocide, that would follow across the entirety of Ukraine in order to ensure that it never strayed from Russia's dominion ever again.

In reality has an invading force ever just pulled out after a short period of war? I can’t think of any examples. Do posters honestly think that a Ukrainian offensive to the border will be the ultimate solution and will end the conflict?

@ParkRunner

Not that I think a Ukrainian offensive to push Russia out of Ukraine is imminent, but if one were to happen, Russia wouldn't have much means to make significant inroads back into that territory, if current speed of advancement is anything to go by. They'd have to significantly up the ante, if you know what I mean, and that would put the world into a place I don't think Putin wants to go as it puts his own survival in great jeopardy.

At this stage, the conflict is never going to end because there is too much hatred between the sides, even if there are phases of no physical hostilities, e.g. the Armenians and the Azeri.

It might just be this thread. There are a few keyboard based special forces badasses in here. Meal team 6.