General Star Trek thread

Rawr · 03-03-2023 09:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120308218#Comment_120308218

I might guess that maybe this cancellation wasn't planned until recently. It could very well be that they fully intended to make more seasons and that Season 5 had an open ending, but now they need to re-shoot stuff to make this a final season.

pixelburp · 03-03-2023 09:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120308388#Comment_120308388

It was always a pity that Trek finally got a Main Cast character who looked properly alien and uncanny, thanks to Jones' uniquely physical performance, and it was in a show that didn't really due him justice.

03-03-2023 10:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120308459#Comment_120308459

By the talk that's correct. They are having to reshoot a closure story.

This isn't a natural ending, this is a recent decision to cancel after principle shooting of S5 had taken place.

pixelburp · 03-03-2023 10:08AM

I'm going to make a wild guess that this newly shot ending for the series finale will involve... a lot of crying.

03-03-2023 10:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120308521#Comment_120308521

May even be hugs, well once they discuss it

flazio · 03-03-2023 10:21AM

I wouldn't get too excited while Alex Kurtzman is still in employment, who knows what he'll replace it with.

ilovesmybrick · 03-03-2023 11:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120308521#Comment_120308521

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03-03-2023 11:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120308762#Comment_120308762

Tears and hugs!!!

TaurenDruid · 03-03-2023 12:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120308521#Comment_120308521

Breathy... crying. With lots of... dramatic...

...pauses.

For the... emotion, you see.

03-03-2023 01:52PM

Just got banned from r/StarTrek for saying that I'm delighted that the show is cancelled.

Apparently I was gleeful that cast and crew lost their jobs, in saying that...

PS: I'm delighted that the show is cancelled

ilovesmybrick · 03-03-2023 02:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120309438#Comment_120309438

r/startrek has been pointless for a while now. Absolutely nothing but fawming praise is permitted, and even the most minor critique of an episode is removed, you just need to look at the sheer number of deleted comments on episode threads. As far as I recall there was a bit of controversy a few years back where some of the mods were getting freebies from Paramount or trips which one of them posted before removing from the thread.

And it looks like you weren't the only one not too upset about the cancellation

Thread is locked, which is a pathetic response really.

Rawr · 17-03-2023 12:16PM

Kind of wonder if they could favourite options like this on the replicator…since the computer never seems to know :P

AMKC · 17-03-2023 12:31PM

Anyone in here watching "The Ark" .

It is very good. It starts off a bit crap but as it goes on it gets better and better and a lot of it is very Star Trek like in that the crew work together to solve their problems.

There is good Character development in it too.

pixelburp · 17-03-2023 12:50PM

I watched the trailer and thought it looked too CW for my blood. Bit done watching pretty young Canadians having relationship troubles in space/post-apocalypse/a world of vampires etc.

AMKC · 17-03-2023 01:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369471#Comment_120369471

Its nothing like that show with your one "Pandora" at the centre in an Academy if that's what your thinking off. Honestly just give it about 4 episodes and if your not enjoying it by then fine drop it.

It has just got better and better with some good mystery and sadness in it too.

Also has anyone seen this You-Tube mash-up of DS9s Emiserry and TNGs Best of Both Worlds,

https://youtu.be/shYRgY8131Y

it's very good.

Rawr · 17-03-2023 05:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369509#Comment_120369509

Came up on my feed too. Is very good. There’s a couple of extra fleet scenes that seem a bit HD. Not sure where they’re from.

Makes me wonder what became of that Bolian officer who I’m guessing was senior staff with Sisco and Capt. Vulkan-Martok. He kind of makes all of those scenes more awesome. The whole sequence of him declaring Jennifer dead and then dragging Sisco out is burned into my memory. Great performance, we should have seen more of him.

pixelburp · 18-03-2023 08:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369509#Comment_120369509

I was actually thinking of The 100, but ye god's that Pandora looks about as CW as the rest going by the trailers. Obviously looking for a cheap Trek, Mass Effect thing going on.

AMKC · 18-03-2023 10:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120370416#Comment_120370416

Agreed. He should have at least got a mention or two in DS9. Without him Sisco would have died, the Galaxy would have been doomed and the Dominion would rule.

Rawr · 19-03-2023 09:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120374610#Comment_120374610

One thought, we don’t see him again and Sisco boards the Escape Pod without him. Could there be a deleted scene where the Bolian guy also got killed? Maybe that was one disaster too many in a scene already filled with them?

PS, another thing I noticed now,

The Escape Pod appears to be a clever re-use of the Runabout set. The 2 Blue-shirts appear to be huddled into the transporter bay, and Sisco & Young Jake are sitting up on the console at the front windows. Hadn’t noticed until now.

AMKC · 20-03-2023 07:53PM

I see Colm Meaney is in the "Marlowe" film remake along with Liam Neeson and some other big names.

It's out now on Sky and other places.

I never seen the Original but I most certainly am going to watch this one.

odyssey06 · 20-03-2023 08:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120380994#Comment_120380994

More Irish connections - directed by Neil Jordan based on an 'official' sequel written by John Banville using a pen name.

Its not a direct remake of an old movie, it is a new story with the character of Philip Marlowe created by Raymond Chandler and previously played eg by Humphrey Bogart in The Big Sleep.

Havent seen it yet but looking forward to it.

fritzelly · 20-03-2023 08:21PM

Lasted 30 mins with that film, lots of talking and not making any sense

AMKC · 20-03-2023 08:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381068#Comment_120381068

Awe very good thank you.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381093#Comment_120381093

The trailer for it makes it look good do lol.

pixelburp · 20-03-2023 08:33PM

Neil Jordan?? Wow now there's a name that has disappeared from the halls of Irish cinema. Was a fairly big name for a spell through the 90s, relatively speaking.

I have heard Marlowe is supposed to be fairly crap though; Colm Meaney also appears in this also supposed-to-be-crap Unwelcome, a horror film set in Ireland.

corkie · 21-03-2023 07:48PM

Despite its flaws, the strengths of Star Trek: Discovery season 1 launched Star Trek's hugely successful 21st-century TV era, which continues to go from strength to strength.

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-season-1-every-good-thing/

A bit of a biased article?

I tried to find a Discovery thread to post this, but didn't want to be resurfacing a dead thread.

pixelburp · 21-03-2023 09:07PM

That's some trash article; sorry corkie I know you're only sharing as a conversation point.

Lorca was a really interesting character the writers basically sabotaged and destroyed by having him being - dramatic reveal!! - evil Lorca from the Mirror Universe... which itself was also bloody stupid when they decided it was literally a darker dimension, cos the photons are dimmer or something. It was one of those stupid "twists" that never had any retrospective nods, hints or fairness that hid the secret in plain sight; if anything it seemed to hint at some PTSD angle, not Evil Twin Shenanigans. In retrospect probably a bit hint at just how chaotic the production was in season 1.

It is true though: Discovery definitely brought Trek back, but the slow creep back towards something resembling quality, and tonal resemblance to Trek's past, didn't start with Disco however.

I think there was one decent Trek'esque episode from SEason 1, the Harry Mudd one with the Time Loop? The rest was just all over the place.

corkie · 21-03-2023 09:38PM

Thanks to Discovery Season 2 we have the SNW spin off.

Star Trek: Picard season 3 is the most celebrated Star Trek <<< ??? <<< show since Star Trek: Strange New Worlds took Paramount+ by storm. Strange New Worlds was literally a show fans clamored for after Captain Christopher Pike (Anson Mount), Spock (Ethan Peck), and Number One (Rebecca Romijn) charmed audiences in Star Trek: Discovery season 2.

~~ https://screenrant.com/star-trek-picard-25th-century-timeline-continue-why/

........

But Star Trek: Picard has, at long last, given new life to the timeline after Star Trek: The Next Generation, which arguably remains the most important, complex, and fascinating era for generations of Star Trek fans who grew up on TNG, DS9, and Voyager.

.........

There are currently no announced plans for a sequel or spinoff to Star Trek: Picard season 3. Showrunner Terry Matalas and his team have publicly stated on Twitter that no deals are in place to continue their Star Trek beyond Picard season 3.

It will be interesting to see if any new rumored show gets picked up, (Seven, Rafi & Worf, Shaw + La Forge sisters & Titan)???

AMKC · 21-03-2023 10:38PM

A Shaw and Titan show in the 25th Century I am all for. He is kind off like a 25th Century version of Christopher Pike.

I would love to see how Shaws doing everything by the book would work. Actually I think it would make for a very dull show unless Seven and some of the crew challenge him now and then and maybe he would begin to see that Picard and Rikers ways at times were right

Rawr · 22-03-2023 10:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120384993#Comment_120384993

Ah Screen Rant...doing a bit of groundwork shilling are we? It's a bit of a headache trying to find balanced option when it comes to these shows. On the one hand you've got exteme complainers on Youtube who'll often go off on rants about things being "Woke" and nit-picking even relativly ok stuff. Then on the other end of the spectrum you have the likes of this. With ScreenRant I'll also include pretty much anthing made by TrekCulture and a smattering of other "professional" geek-culture reviewers who often lean into a bias when it comes to these things, instead of being honest.

Discovery is possibly the most divisive thing to ever include the Trek name. Calling it "Hugely successful" is a lie. "From strength to strenght" is a soundbyte designed to stroke egos. The show struggled to settle on a theme for 3 years, found one that wasn't popular and now it's cancelled. Other shows came about because Trekkies wanted something much better than "The Burnham Show", and now finally I think we're getting there, but that is *in spite of* Discovery, not because of it.

The sooner this Season 5 is done the better. Then Screenrant and their ilk will have to great creative in defending a dead show that I feel few wanted to keep around for so long. With any luck, they'll shut up about it.

ilovesmybrick · 22-03-2023 11:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120386776#Comment_120386776

Honestly this forum is one of the few places where there is a modicum of objectivity. Fully agree that the majority of Trek adjacent media is either hyper critical or hyper positive. Very, very frustrating because when you have obvious improvements, like Picard season 3, it's very hard to work out if the reviewer is just positive for the sake of positivity and screeners, and it's very difficult for them to point out the improvements without mentioning what bilge earlier seasons were, since they all apparently loved them so much.

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