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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    That photo must have been taken on a monday morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Anyone know if the Bradleys will have the DU ammo for the cannon, I am assuming not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @SlowBlowin I've zero sympathy or empathy for the Russian soldiers, conscripts, professionals , mercenaries,

    I'm absolute geek when it comes to the history of warfare and normally I've respect for anyone who's served or is serving in the military even one of two on here I've clashed with, but In the case of the Russians Ive nothing,

    But I do believe this war should never have happened in the first place,I'm following this 9 years and it should have been stopped on 2014 ,and now the only choice is war until either Russia withdraws or they are completely forced out,but that cannot and will not happen unless the Ukrainans are backed to the hilt ,not this drip feeding of weapons,they need 100 HiMars and GLSDBs , they need aircraft to give close air support,that can be jets or modern attack helicopters and drones equipped with standoff weapons,

    Tanks are taking too long by the time any real number of western tanks are in place Russia could be able to counter those tanks ,

    I honestly can't see any kind of negotiating with putin he's always broken treatys with ukraine and we've been through two mink's agreements which were broken by Russians trying to redraw the lines, we've seen similar again in south Ossetia in Georgia,a particular line was agreed to end that conflict, every few years the Russian military arrives and moves the fences further into Georgian territory.

    So how can you negotiate anything if the Russians Keep changing the rules in their favor,

    Russia wants ukraine gone and that not going to change,so either we sit back and say sorry it was nice knowing you's or we say we're all going in and this ends tomorrow.

    But there's no appetite for that either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Would you stop at the boarder or go all the way to Moscow ?

    I cant see Putin stopping when his military is ejected from Ukraine, at a minimum taking pot shots from Russia will be a daily occurrence the nuclear option is too scary to discuss, so do you see any other path to peace other than the destruction of Russia ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    The orcs have went to a very deliberate effort to make it look like the plane is ok by releasing a video like that.

    Reminds me of the time when they opened the Kerch Bridge for a day to traffic the day after it was blown. Just a flesh wound they said, bridge would be fully reopen after a few days.

    Everything putler and the orcs do in the media is for show. Could very well be that this is more theater to appease the internal audience.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I'd rather the Ukrainans stopped at the kirch Bridge on the Ukraine side , there is no reason to try take any territory inside Russia, I've no issues with them targeting military infrastructure inside Russia but they absolutely don't need to put boot on the ground in Russia proper ,they would have nothing to gain by it and risk drawing others into the conflict such as China and other Russian allies such as Iran and north Korea, even though some of the above have already supplied weapons to the Russians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    As your a self confessed military geek can I ask do you believe effective flux compression weapons exist ?

    I know both Russia and the US have been working on them for decades but I don't know if they are in any current arsenals. India has boasted that they have developed them and India is a Russian ally.

    It seems to me that this conflict would be perfect for Russia to use them, given the use of starlink, drones and the supply of superior intelligence from the western allies.

    I know its taken seriously as one of the last jobs I did before I retired was an installation (camera related) in the UKs drone operations center, located at a civilian UK international airport. The control rooms were inside a huge Faraday cage, I was told the cage was the most expensive component aside from the drones. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,147 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Really thought the sanctions would be hitting hard by now.


    How long do we have to wait???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The American Navy had planned to put rail guns on the Zumwalt class destroyers and then they were going with a different gun system which was too expensive to shoot and now going with hypersonic missiles instead,for something that was being developed back in the 50s we've not seen so much progress on flux compression weapons,the US Navys rail guns was the most promising system that looks like it was to be fielded,but that seems to have been knocked on the head for the time being,the new buzz is around directed energy weapons, they have seen some advances from the modified 747 which was armed with a proper active system which was used to shoot down other airborne targets but that was retired and is currently getting ready to be installed as a museum piece,

    We're back to hypersonic missiles again something that the US fell behind in but they already have several hypersonic aircraft so it's not like they have zero experience with and it looks like several companies from Lockheed Martin, Boeing and others already have developed and tested hypersonic missiles,

    While suggesting several future aircraft will carry directed energy weapons,

    It's interesting times for weapons developments



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Ah, you're right, they're not working. Let's lift them all, shur.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    Bellingcat journalist on recent, according to him, likely UAF attack in Russia on Thursday.


    https://twitter.com/colbornemichael/status/1631290725257080834

    I guess he's a SVR agent now too because it's against "the message" even though Bellingcat has previously been proven to receive funds from US and UK intelligence linked groups.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,153 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Michael Colborne provides not a shred of evidence for what is just a personal opinion. The vast majority of the comments express scepticism and disagreement and many are calling him out on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,153 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui



    Crazy conclusion at the end, but riveting until then. Is this part of the times are desperate, we need desperate measures theme that seems to be in play at the moment?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,153 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Rashist losses in manpower reached 150,000 people❗️

    Try not to grin.



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    Grin is 100% the wrong word.

    It’s fuking terrible there is such loss of life, even for those I consider an enemy. Most of these guys don’t want to be part of Putin’s war machine.

    That’s not to say I don’t want Russia to lose, and I recognise that clearly requires Russians to die. I’m aware of that. I’m also aware some Russian soldiers are committing war crimes. But, grin at a loss of 150,000 human beings. Thankfully, that’s not my go to reaction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭Grayson



    A lot of it is choreographed. That could just be to scare an internal audience.

    Still it's rare to see anything on Russian state TV that isn't filled with hyper patriotic jingoism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It's gas all of a sudden bellincat are no longer reliable because they didn't jump on the bandwagon when it came to a story in Belarus,

    I doubt the Ukrainans signed off on this adventure into Russia by known separatists wearing clean and shiny fatigues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭Field east


    Very very simple. Peace can be IMMEDIATELY achieved by Ru fe..ing off home right now. The Golden bridge is immediate also ie.

    (1) massive reduction in military expendture

    (2) no more killing

    (3) the start of a long period - maybe up to 50 years- of rehabilitation re doing business with the west as is between normal countries

    (4) Putin can sleep better

    IMO ,these 4 points provide the golden bridge /off ramp for Putin if he is looking for one.

    he can spin it as having given the Ukr a big bloody nose and put a bit of manners on them not to treat Ru with disrespect again - whatever that might mean



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭Field east


    A stopped clock is right twice every 24 hours . Mc Williams was so definite about the way the Irish economy would recover after the start of the 2007 downturn. I think the economy recovered much much faster than he indicated. His take at the time was quiet depressing. His attitude at the time was that he knew better.

    he loves himself and loves projecting/ speculating

    i find him of interest but I read his Colum’s with my eyes WIDE OPEN



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Yep. I can completely understand the graffiti on the Russian embassy. That's the russian state itself. But abusing a russian who's actually anti war is just wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,759 ✭✭✭weisses


    That death toll number is according to Ukrainian sources ... should be taken with a pinch of salt ... the real number is going to be a staggering one regardless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭ElitesTeam


    What are the UA losses or is that not reported? 1:1 is what i've heard so far



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,153 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That's fine, but given 94% of the funds I have sent to Ukraine so far have been for the express purpose of purchasing mateiriel to directly kill Orcs or assist in that task, we clearly don't see eye to eye on this and never will.

    Another €100 sent last night to help fund some Motorolla radios and spare batteries for a unit near Bakhmut. I hope that helps them and that they kill legions of those civillian targeting scum.

    I follow Natasha on Youtube and have been rooting for her and those likeminded and am very sympathetic to their awful plight, but she and they are only 30% of their 18-34 cohort, the Putrid loving rest can all drop dead.

    And if you want something else to detest me for; I am not remotely persuaded by the religion driven idea of a profound sanctity and superiority of "human beings" we are in general, a truly awful species.

    Post edited by cnocbui on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭Economics101


    That Sky report refers to "race hatred" against Russians. The basis for these events is not race, it's nationality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Do we believe this chap? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/02/russia-run-out-of-money-oleg-deripaska

    He's involved in our Aughinish Alumina plant, some talk about sanctioning it this time last year but all gone kinda quiet since. Local politicians and jobs etc etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,153 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Well I have some good news for you. One fairly measurable group that can be used to assist in inferring the larger picture are the foreign fighters who have, or are, serving in Ukraine. Their number is given as approximately 20,000, of which 216 have unfortunately died, or 1.08%

    So the Ukrainian claims of low loss rates I find entirely credible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭ElitesTeam


    You are telling me UA has lost about 1% since the start.

    300,000 @ 1% so 3000 men.

    3000 men lost for UA???



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    I applaud your funding of Ukraine, to the point it ending the lives of invaders. I see nothing gleeful in it though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Deripaska himself is under sanctions, and indeed was indicted in the US late last year for sanctions violations (https://businessplus.ie/news/jail-limerick/) So he's facing up to 20 years in prison in the US if they get their hands on him.

    Neither Aughinish Alumina or its parent company (Rusal), nor it's parent (En+) are currently subject to sanctions themselves.

    En+ was subject to US sanctions previously, but they were lifted in 2019 after Deripaska and other directors divested their interests and positions to the satisfaction of the US authorities. He still has a minority share in En+, but has no control over decision making.

    There was talk last year of Glencore (Swiss metal trading company) taking over the plant in Limerick, but nothing has happened yet. They previously owned it before Rusal did.

    Aughinish Alumina is the biggest alumina (aluminium oxide) refinery in the whole of Europe, so it's bit more than just local politicians and jobs. Aluminium oxide is used as a constituent raw material in a wide variety of products and processes.



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