Bob Flavin (motoring journalist) & his views on EVs

Old diesel · 21-12-2022 03:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120021881#Comment_120021881

The issue with all this is - imagine how this all sounds like to a Claire Byrne listener who knows nothing about EVs.

The listener is thinking

"god these EVs sound unworkable and totally 10 years time technology".

How do they choose who to talk to as an expert.

I mean there's an EV Owners association - would you not if RTE - talk to them for example.

DrPhilG · 19-02-2023 01:43AM

Lol, just realised I've been blocked by our favourite spoofer on twitter for pointing out his dual phase electricity nonsense.

ED E · 19-02-2023 03:07AM

It seems like a load more shite is allowed to fly in the post Sean O'R days. She had another "expert" on recently spouting crap that science has debunked for 15-20 years.

Gumbo · 20-02-2023 12:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120259891#Comment_120259891

100% he is a BS merchant. Blocked me when I pointed out to him about our night rate tariffs while he himself was slagging another poster that the costs he was stating were incorrect. He strikes me as an arrogant his way or no way type of fella. His following is a bunch of teenagers asking questions about theory tests, insurance for exhausts of IS200’s etc

unkel · 20-02-2023 01:48AM

Similar enough happened to me. I rarely comment on YouTube videos. And if I do, it's almost always heartfelt, honest & constructive, in an area that I am passionate about and dare I say, knowledgeable about and experienced in. And I am good at sums. So I would call out anyone doing blatantly incorrect maths. Not so much does Bob show any appreciation of that, to put it mildly...

Black_Knight · 20-02-2023 03:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120263612#Comment_120263612

You think he'd appreciate the comments for the algorithm. I hear "bad math" etc in YouTube videos can be a purposeful trigger to get more comments. You can certainly see how it'd work

MojoMaker · 20-02-2023 05:45AM

He's on here and can't explain himself so what hope have you on any other form of social media.

DrPhilG · 20-02-2023 08:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120263739#Comment_120263739

"Won't", not can't...

Gumbo · 20-02-2023 09:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120263739#Comment_120263739

Too ignorant and arrogant to explain himself or even admit he made a mistake.

20-02-2023 11:45AM

For some reason the people who use liquid fuel have no problems understanding that you can't add 200 litres of petrol in a 50 litre tank. And that the number of litres added is directly proportional to the price of said fuel per litre.

So yes, you can't keep on charging 100's of kWh of electricity in a 50 kWh battery back. Or that if you add 30 kWh in that battery when it's partially used it costs approx. that number multiplied by the cost of the unit. So at home between €2.50 and €10 depending time of day and how bad you're electricity rates are, and on the road about €20.

MojoMaker · 20-02-2023 11:53AM

Making sense doesn't always get clicks or followers though.

unkel · 23-02-2023 12:26AM

WTF has Bob Flavin done with his Youtube channel anyway?

Tesla Inc?

@ceo_tesala (sic)?

All his other content removed?

Linky:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5-KHIRFPeeurU-GJwa7zFw

DrPhilG · 23-02-2023 12:41AM

I take it he's getting a long loaner of a Tesla?

For Forks Sake · 23-02-2023 12:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120277552#Comment_120277552

Been hacked by some Elon fanboys and all his vids gone by the sounds of things

https://twitter.com/BobFlavin/status/1628408280258052099

https://twitter.com/BobFlavin/status/1628417383856500738

unkel · 23-02-2023 12:59AM

@For Forks Sake - "Been hacked by some Elon fanboys and all his vids gone by the sounds of things"

Surely YouTube would have sorted it out promptly? Obviously only if they are aware of what happened and you'll have to prove who you are. Should be easy enough. Bob Flavin's "Anyone know what to do? Panicking here, 13 years of work!" seems naive at best. I hope this is not all some attention seeking stunt.

Bovakinn · 23-02-2023 10:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120277612#Comment_120277612

I don't think it's Tesla fanboys considering the "Elon Musk crypto giveaway" scam that's being posted in the chat of his live videos.

Mythago · 23-02-2023 10:09AM

Doubt Bob is faking it. He's not the first YouTuber to lose a channel to similar "Elon" scam channels. Even Jim Browning the man that shuts downs scammers got hacked and lost his channel for a period of time.

Gumbo · 23-02-2023 10:18AM

While I don’t normally laugh at this stuff, he should have the videos backed up. Karma kicks ass too.

Not a nice thing to happen

unkel · 23-02-2023 10:44AM

Well as much as we all criticise him here, I too hope that he gets sorted soon and gets all his stuff back and his channel back up and running. It's the man's living after all.

Gumbo · 23-02-2023 10:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278186#Comment_120278186

Agree completely.

Fingleberries · 23-02-2023 11:35AM

While people may have our differences with Bob as a journalist or even personally, on a human level this is someone's livelihood or at the very least a significant part of it. Hopefully YouTube will be able to assist with recovery of the account (although if the group that have taken control of his account delete everything, there may be no recovery option for the content without personal backups)

A similar thing happened recently to another channel I've seen (the corridor crew, a video effects group) and they documented all the loopholes and length of time it took them - with their team of techies - to recover the situation. As a one-man show, it may be a long road for Bob - hopefully has a positive outcome.

dloob · 23-02-2023 12:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278365#Comment_120278365

It's been happening a bit lately, same guys did a home automation channel I follow recently, renamed it to Tesla flogging crypto scams etc.

They send a sponsorship proposal and if you respond they send on some details and a briefing file which has a pdf icon. But it is actually an exe in the old screensaver .scr format. It doesn't trigger antivirus and contains a cookie stealer which nicks your youtube session auth cookies and then they can hijack the account even if it has 2FA.

The videos on the other channel were at least only delisted not deleted so it was all recovered.

AMKC · 26-02-2023 02:34PM

Just noticed this now. This is terrible and a horrible thing to happen too. In fact something similar happened to my Dad when he was running his business they stopped him using his computer and it was one of the things that made him decide he had enough of this **** and he decided to retire.

I hope Bob gets his channel and all his videos back.

silver_sky · 26-02-2023 03:45PM

Terrible thing to happen, but watch when he does get it back I'm guessing he will try blame Tesla fans. These scammers use Tesla/Musk just to get attention and views.

munchkin_utd · 27-02-2023 09:25PM

The youtube channel is back, and with a new video praising the new Renault Megane Electric version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIpPFaTPv4A

Black_Knight · 28-02-2023 10:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120295571#Comment_120295571

Praising electrics in general it seems. Certainly changed his tune

Killer K · 28-02-2023 04:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120296770#Comment_120296770

He has been praising EVs for many years now. His biggest gripe is with the infrastructure which we can all agree is not where it needs to be.

While he doesn't always get his facts right, there are plenty of other reviewers who are equally as guilty/bad and they don't get the abuse he gets.

For widescale adoption and acceptance of EVs, people like Bob are very important as they speak to the middle of the road (no pun intended) Toyota Corolla drivers.

DrPhilG · 28-02-2023 04:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120298193#Comment_120298193

Name another Irish reviewer who gets his or her facts as wrong as Bob?

unkel · 28-02-2023 04:37PM

@Killer K - "While he doesn't always get his facts right, there are plenty of other reviewers who are equally as guilty/bad and they don't get the abuse he gets."

His problem is that he removes / bans people who correct his mistakes. That doesn't earn you much respect in my book.

I agree with your point about his target audience being the middle of the road, not so well informed, not so clever, not very forward thinking part of the population. And that he'll have more influence there than the Fully Charged Show, Jonny Smith and Bjørn Nyland put together 😁

Killer K · 28-02-2023 05:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120298236#Comment_120298236

Nobby makes plenty of mistakes. Watch a few of his reviews. Also, Neil Briscoe doesn't cover himself in glory either and is guilty of a lack of research at very least. His recent review of the Model Y is an excellent example.

Bob Flavin (motoring journalist) & his views on EVs

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