General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

There’s a case to be made for Finals to be exempt from suspensions. Pope may never again get an opportunity to play in a final.

Perhaps replace it with a 2 game ban (or 4 games if the suspension was 3 games, one of which was to include the final) in situations where a player is being permitted to play in the final.

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Its a kick in the nuts for Pope but he knew the rules , He messed up ,it happens but its a red card offence all day long ,

can't agree at all. A suspension is a punishment for the player and the team. Why should their opposition in the final be punished in order to be nice to the guy that got sent off? Why should Newcastles next league opponents be the ones to benefit rather than Man United?

Where I do see a good call, and iirc Uefa did this a while ago, is that yellow card accumulation should be wiped at the semi final stage, so that you can't be banned from the final for getting a yellow card in the semi.

If you are red carded though, and that red card should see you banned, it has to stand.

And yeah, Pope may not get to play in another final - he probably shouldn't have grabbed the ball 40 yards from goal, especially when his team was already two goals down.

I wonder if Man United had one less league game to play and Casemiro was going to miss the final, would there be the same outpouring of grief for him missing the final? Or if Sabitzer had been sent off, would that have seen calls for him to be allowed to play? a

I have a lot of sympathy for players missing finals due to yellows - especially with how easy yellows get handed out in Europe

But Pope grabbed the ball in his arms outside the box because he knew he messed up - complete denial of a certain goal. Not really much to sympathize with there.

The only difference here, is that in England, the rule is different to the rest of Europe, in that they have bookings, etc. tied into the competition in which you received them.

If you kept red card suspensions separate, you could end up with a player getting a red in the cup this year and serving the suspension for 3 years if his team keep going out in the first round.

Thanks for all the corrections. Saw this clarification as well

"If a player is handed a three-game suspension in the FA Cup, that will be served across the club's next three matches in domestic competition, whatever tournament that may be."

English FA and football league like to make up their own rules

In the World Cup at the beginning of it they seemed to make an effort to address that but it was criticised by media inexplicably. They were actually trying to do the right thing and it didn’t last. It’s a scourge on the game the way they’ve all become so practised at killing time.

What a job Ten Hag is doing - and Caseimero got be one of the signings of the season