Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Large numbers of people will be shanghaied soon after collapsing from too much vodka, and waking up to find themselves in a trench in Ukraine.

It's a pity he's gone again, I find stories about alternate realities intriguing.😋

Charlie Atlas, Joan Burton, Hemeriod something or other.

I wonder what his next name will be. Don't worry too much, I expect the entertainment to recommence at about 8 to 9am tomorrow morning again. He seems to be sleeping in later each morning.

Berlin,they are actually still upset about what they believe is the illegal annexation of East Germany from the Soviet union,

They even went to the UN about it,

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Hopefully they don't meet a commissar on the way to guide them back in the right direction

I doubt it's 50 miles range launching from 200 feet.

Most people call the war the "Russian invasion of Ukraine", but Mick doesn't even mention Russia. If that's Mick's idea of the war, I wonder what his version of peace is like?

I agree with all of that. Putin is showing no signs of easing up on his murderous campaign in fact if anything he is threatening to ramp it up. I'm not militarily wise enough to know what should be done but I believe something drastic should be done to put an end to his campaign.

I suspect, given the responses to earlier posts, that this will be an unpopular opinion but regardless: I do not agree with the notion that all Russian people are complicit with what is happening in Ukraine unless they are actively fighting against it - especially those people actually living in Russia. Russia is not a democracy. Russia does not have freedom of speech. All of that stuff that conspiratorial nutcases in the USA talk about where the government show up at your house to arrest you for things that you have said. Well that is actually happening in Russia right now. They still can't even refer to what is going in as a "War". They can't legally protest. At the same time they are being inundated with propaganda and any independent media has been shut down or driven out of the country.

So if you were a regular person, living in Russia what would you be doing right now? It's very easy to say that you'd be walking up and down the street with a placard saying that "Putin is a Murderer" or that you'd be fire-bombing recruitment base. It's very easy to say that when you know that you will never have to makes those choices. Everyone can be brave in their imaginations. It's another thing when the very real possibility of ending up in a Russian penal colony is the inevitable result of your, most likely, futile protest. A place where rape, torture and murder is common practice.

Maybe you'd say that you'd leave the country and maybe you would. Maybe you don't have the resources though. Going into exile is hard. You might have family commitments - people who depend on you actually being there in person. Fleeing is an unimaginable luxury for many people.

Now I'm not for one moment defending the propagandists, the intelligence services, the oligarchs, the police and all of the rapists, murders and torturers in the Russian army. Those people are scum and I hope that if there is a hell that they'll end up in it.

I guess I'm defending ordinary Russian people from that charge that they're "a sub-human race" or whatever it was that someone said earlier. I understand where that poster is coming from. When I see the atrocities committed in Ukraine or when I see Russians in places like Germany obnoxiously marching down the street with their Russian flags spouting propaganda I too am disgusted. It doesn't sit right with me though to castigate the entire nation as, essentially vermin. Just because Putin is a monster doesn't mean that everyone in the country is too.

I said this last year. Russia would attack and attack then one day the attacks would suddenly stop because they ran out of ammo. When you hear them questioning NATO's ability to maintain their ammo supplies they are really speaking about their own. They often project their weaknesses onto the west in a sort of reverse psychology for simpletons.

The voice of reason? You should have chosen loaderballs, it would have been more apt. 😛 And we're off with the "feeble minded ignoramus".

Any more garbage to report? 🤣

Broadly agree with the sentiment here; although one thing to keep in mind is that Putin's rise to power didn't happen in a vacuum. Large numbers of Russian people did and continue to vote for and support him.

I suppose the question is: if Russia's people are not willing to keep their Government in check then who is going to do it?

I think the answer is: nobody else can. NATO cannot intervene within Russia because Russia has nuclear weapons and other capabilities which it would certainly use even in its death throes if a foreign power invaded.

If the entire world banded together and imposed sanctions on Russia maybe that would do it: but as we know that just isn't going to happen (China/India I'm looking at you).

So whilst I do agree with the sentiment I also think large scale civil disobedience is probably the only thing that would actually put a stop to the war (beyond Ukrainian military victory of course); but yet the Russian people seem to have zero appetite for that struggle. Compare and contrast with the Maidan in Ukraine for example.

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