Marvel Studios’ Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania

some cursing.. the critical drinker, gives his thoughts on the movie... as I said, some cursing, but good points.

Makes some accurate criticisms but in parts it is like he didn't even watch the movie - which seems to be a regular feature of most these novelty youtube accounts no matter the movie. Just trying to shoehorn reactions for clicks whether they make sense or not.

Not sure if its his normal schtick to get engagement but people going out of their way to attack female characters is just boring at this stage. He complains that all the female characters are all smart and strong yet has absolutely no issue with the male characters having the exact same traits. Also seems weirdly surprised that a young girl was written to be more likeable than a teenager - has he ever encountered a teenager?

that's a fair criticism, i will tread wisely in that particular account. waters.. etc

He actually completely ignores that one of the plot points that is built on throughout the movie is that one of the female characters isn't naturally great at everything. It looks like key parts of it might have been edited out for time but they show and tell you it several times.

On the film enthusiasts of that ilk in general, I can only imagine them if Alien was released today - it would be deemed the woke-ist of woke movies.

Sounds like a rough 1st date hope you didn't pay for her :D

As pointed out in my OP, I'd have no issues with him focusing on the female characters for those traits if it wasnt for the fact the male characters in this movie are written the exact same or in an even more 'lazy' way and yet he completely ignores them.

Scott is similarly as great as everything as Hope, with Hope having a much more rounded backstory as to why she is that way - daughter of genius superheroes who spent years working on the technology and training growing up, including years for heist that Scott ends up pulling off after a few days training.

Hank and Janet have the exact same backstory being a tag team genius superhero couple, with it making far more sense that Janet is stronger at this point having needed to survive for decades in the quantum realm while Hank sat around at home.

Kang, like Thanos, is the new male most powerful character in the universe where we don't see any 'progression' - as you said, he is 'automatically' that way.

We're just told in Bill Murray's brief cameo that he is smart, rich, and powerful - nothing earned at all.

All the background characters, both male/female/alien, are all as instantly great as each other with their powers.

That leaves on Cassie, who they beat us over the head isn't good at using the suit for most of the movie and we see clear progression with her. As for not having 'negative traits' for female characters, in the video he openly complains how unlikeable she is, acting spoiled etc - unlike most teenage heroes in the MCU who are usually incredibly likeable. Another female, Janet, is the one who causes the whole movie narrative with her negative trait of lying to her family.

Drinker doesn't have a leg to stand on here, he went out of his way to attack the female characters for issues that are similarly or more pervasive in the male characters. What his issues with women are I dont know but he clearly has plenty of them.

Did your desire to rant about a female character make you ignore key parts of the movie where most of this is explained?

She has aged what 8-10 years or so since Ant-man 2 and is now an older teenager so obviously she is a completely different character than the child we saw previously. They go out of their way to highlight that given Scott's time away he doesn't even really know her - they don't want or expect the audience to.

Cassie didn't build that tool on her own, they repeatedly said she worked on it with Hank and Hope - the two people who built the original gateway. She gives the overview but Janet blames the others for the build.

It isn't surprising she isn't overly phased by the quantum realm as she isn't a normal teenager just dumped in there. As a child she was attacked in her bedroom by a super powered villain and loved having a giant ant as a pet nor phased by Thomas the Tank engine exploding out of her house. She also lived through half of the world disappearing, aliens attacking, and the multiple other earth threatening event during her lifetime. To top it off she probably heard the general idea of what is in the quantum realm from the others and also many wild, weird stories from Scott and other Avengers she might have met.

The aliens don't trust her, she has already drunk 'the ooze' so she can communicate with them. Even then there is no evidence they believe her and trust him, as they hold him prisoner until they scan him and prove he is telling the truth.

She isn't automatically great at being small, they show her repeatedly failing at it before finally getting better. As for 'excellent at being big', there isn't any skill to it, you just wave around and crush things and try not to fall asleep.

It must be painful to watch every movie sitting there distracted by rage towards female characters for existing.

Why would you wonder why Sarah Connor gets a pass?

She spends the first movie absolutely terrified, only able to defeat the Terminator with Reese basically doing all the work. In the intervening time between the two movies, a PTSD ridden Sarah is insitutionalised and becomes obsessed with training so she can defend herself better incase he comes back.

Remarkably clear arc - goes from effectively useless to extremely capable over the span of two movies. Doesn't start off great at everything. Still makes mistakes in the second movie. Very flawed character.

Identical situation with Ripley, who is relatively useless in the first movie (compared to her capabilities in Aliens) and relies on her surroundings and quick intuition to defeat the Alien. If Aliens came out in 2022 it would be just as loved because there is a clear progression in Ripleys abilities, and she doesn't start off being the best right off the bat.

Would have thought this really straightforward, but it seems that some people cannot make the distinction between two of the best written characters (not just female characters) of all time, and the current crop of flawless, snarky, amazing female characters who are great at everything immediately without struggling or needing to grow. Instead, better off to pretend that there is no difference.

I dont think Cassie was that skilled at the beginning she was only successfully fighting enemies with 30 minutes to go. At some level Marvel movies are kids movies so of course they are going to have the only young character do cool stuff.

As for Critial Drinker and similar youtubers going after female characters, its just their shtick to get loads of views, I wouldnt take it seriously.

Marketing can only take you so far. Word of mouth made Avatar tWoW the 3rd highest grossing film of all time and word of mouth has killed this film.

This will be lucky to hit 600m at this stage.