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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Being there's been mention of Ukrainan pilots not getting F16s,

    In America F16s are getting AI pilots, in this case the F16 Vista thrust vectoring prototype,

    @greenpilot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I picked the one that clearly said No Air raid alert in Ukraine when two Mig 31s took off from Belarus carrying hypersonic missiles.

    You claimed it happens every time one takes off From Belarus.

    So ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    You picked a tweet that announced their take off, the tweet didn't announce the air raid. I showed you the link to the day in question that states the air raid was indeed sounded 16 minutes after they took off.

    So you believe Ukraine had a country wide air raid siren today for the fun of it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,456 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    A speech of two presidents today. It's going to be a very interesting 24 hours.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Seems the Russian acquisition of Belarus is in full swing,like some of us didn't already know,




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I don't believe their was any threat or any mig 31s took off from Belarus,

    It's a simple case of jumping on a post you knew you little or nothing about,

    It's seems the mig 31 story originated in the Belarusian media, which then turned into AWACS,Su27s, other fighters and mig 31s armed with hypersonic missiles,


    Mostly likely it's nothing more than propaganda,

    But yet despite air raid sirens nobody reacted ,not Ukrainans not Americans,so their is a distinct possibly the air raid sirens were actived by the Ukrainans to keep the streets and roads clear, especially If news got around Biden was there in Kiev ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The story you mention was not today. It was a link to a Feb 10 air raid warning that you didn't believe occured due to Mig-31's taking off from Belarus. I only gave you the link to show you country wide air alerts occur due to Migs taking off from Belarus.

    If you read threads on Twitter you can see Ukrainian's do have a pattern, widespread air alert due to Migs taking off from Belarus don't tend to be as serious for them compared to a wide scale missile launch from the black sea. Obviously 1 missile that may be fired vs a confirmed launch of multiple missiles and drones.

    I simply don't believe they issued a countrywide air alert for hours simply to keep the streets clear for Biden. They already had roads closed in Kyiv.

    In fact you brought up the reference to the Mig claim to deflect away from positing a photo of a pristine ballistic missile on the ground claiming it was shot down, a photo of the cluster section of a ballistic missile on the ground, portraying it as being shot down, then doubled down with a manpad shooting down a ballistic missile which was actually a cruise missile. I was just trying to correct inaccuracies and now you're doubling down on the Mig story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Meanwhile in Serbia.

    Serbia government has decided to buy french Rafales instead of more Russian aircraft,seems a complete about turn for the serbs interesting times.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If you read threads on Twitter you can see Ukrainian's do have a pattern, widespread air alert due to Migs taking off from Belarus don't tend to be as serious for them compared to a wide scale missile launch from the black sea. Obviously 1 missile that may be fired vs a confirmed launch of multiple missiles and drones.

    Makes zero sense.

    So either air raid alerts the moment a single aircraft takes off or there's not ,

    Getting a bit late on the day for running around in circles trying to untie a knot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,009 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    A lot of eyes on Moldova now. With the leaks coming out about the Kremlin's plans for Belarus and if it wasn't already obvious, Putin planned to have Ukraine, Moldova and Belarus and be right up against Europe without those annoying buffer states in between.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Nice theory, but the Kinzhal/Dagger can manouever at all points of its flight, pulling around 48g I believe. But possibly worse for the case for a head on intercept is that due to air friction at mach 10-12, its surrounded by a plasma which absorbs radio waves so a radar guided missile, and search radars, cant see it.

    Because it flies at hypersonic speeds within the atmosphere, the air pressure in front of it forms a plasma cloud as it moves, absorbing radio waves (Plasma stealth).[22]

    And here is the confirmation of the use of rockets by the Horde army with a high probability of rockets of the type

    "dagger" (hypersonic aviation missile complex 9-A-7660 "Dagger", which can carry nuclear potential )


    The launch was carried out from the territory of the Kalinkovichi district (Republic of Belarus).


    At least two air-launched missiles were launched towards the border with Ukraine and they were changing their trajectory


    Missiles are launched from MIG-31 fighters.


    It is worth noting that missiles can change their trajectory in the air.


    This can be seen in one of the photos. Thus, the launch was made from the fighter, after which it went into a U-turn.


    IMG_20230221_011821_502.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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    Its during the launch and midcourse stage the missile can manuver at higher altitude and lower speed mach 4-5,and this stage is also when its most vulnerable

    In the terminal stage when it dives towards its target at mach 10 it will burn up if it manuvers

    And hypersonic missiles can be detected on radar just like any other missile,if not most certainly in the infrared spectrum using infrared search and track

    And the plasma stealth is just fiction from russian propaganda

    The plasma does block radio signals,but only certain frequencies,it goes both ways,also for a radar seeker,thats why Kinzhal cant hit a moving target.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Given what was delivered to Serbia from China a few weeks ago, I sincerely doubt that the French would deliver Rafales to the Serbs. There would be a massive compromise expected from the Russian Ally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    I posted an excellent video, many pages back, from Mark (something, I've forgotten his name), an historian from the UK, where he goes into great detail to explain that 16 cruise missiles is all it would take to cripple the UK. That's without hitting one direct military target.

    16 targets consisting of Ports, Communication, infrastructure, power etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Sounds like just fancier theory and Russian propaganda. What I said about head on interception is true for anything that's in the field. I wouldn't believe any wonder weapon exists developed by russia or India of all places

    Post edited by Dufflecoat Fanny on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 DrivingMrDaisy


    If there is one thing we've learnt from the last year it's to never ever underestimate Russian stupidity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Parts of Ireland infrastructure is a legitimate military target,

    Better get the fisherman on standby,and a Nato application



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Vladimir Putin will be giving his annual State of the Nation address at 09:00 GMT



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    Will probably announce to the world that the Great Patriotic War 2.0 is now underway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 vatnikbanderite


    some much cope going on... The Russians are severely butt hurt it wasn't Putin visiting Kyiv :-D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 vatnikbanderite




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,622 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Looking forward to the North Korea levels of dilusion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 vatnikbanderite


    that's why I'd like to see the video.... a normal cruise missile would take out a step up/down transmission station in electrical infrastructure fairly handy.... considering there is literally thousands of these around the UK, I'm interested in how 16 cruise missiles (and of what type and where) would cripple the UK... unless they're nuclear, I'm calling bullshit...

    There was a similar piece in the Daily Mail last week I think which gave a list of 10-15 military targets, which if hit, would cripple the UK... it had a list of high value targets alright, but lets say some key pieces which would be used in a war effort were not included (and would leave the UK in a very valid second strike scenario)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,456 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Ukranian positions coming under fire from artillery located in Belarus.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I love the way Putin thinks that missile defence systems in Europe are a threat. The translator even used the phrase “missile defence systems”, so Putin acknowledges they they are for the defence of Europe from Russian missiles, not offence. His logic is as screwed up as the re-regs on this thread.

    My heart is starting to melt. Judging by what Putin says he is a huge victim. It would have been better if he wasn’t born because life is so bad due to no fault of his own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    The deluded is you mate. All you do is think you’re the fountain of knowledge and then belittle opposing views. Sometimes you’re right and sometimes you’re wrong although you think you’re always right. A tedious keyboard warrior.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    The attendees at Putins attempt to rewrite history look very uncomfortable, bored, and depressed. Are they being held there against their will?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Wow. He is saying that paedophilia is normal in the West, as his soldiers are rewarded for the rape of children in Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Private Joker


    I can't listen to that crap. "Russia is a force for good. west is full of pedophile nazis."



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