Russia - threadbanned users in OP

It makes me sick that many here are so willing to back the vile murdering rapist orc regime.

No still in Russia, however he is the chairman of the All Russian officers assembly which may be a retired/ serving senior officers grouping. Highly unlikely he made the statement without the blessing of both serving and retired senior officers.

My own opinion is that the army will at some stage say enough is enough. The losses are horrendous, the officer core must be seriously depleted and it probably only time before there is an army mutiny.

This war can only end with orc regime change.

It's the only way to guarantee the safety of Europe from these rapist murdering thugs.

Ever wondered how the Ukrainians are slaughtering Orcs at around a thousand a day? Just watch - one tank vs 30 Orcs.

Thanks for this BR. Good to hear that he is chairman of the All Russian Officers Assembly. Top Brass. Sounds like he's voicing the opinions of all of them. Hopefully we're entering the "enough is enough" stage.

Sure they could, they have the non- nuclear capabilities to do so if they wanted, but if there was one trigger for full scale nuclear war for Putin, this would be it. He would push the button to end it all, world wide. Why do you think that the US/UK/EU are being so careful about the range of the weapons they are supplying to Ukraine? The last thing they want is to give Putin the justification to launch nuclear weapons.

I'd say that there are hunter killer subs US and RN trailing these alll the time and if an attack was certain they might be destroyed before they could launch. The US has 21 newer types. Still nobody would want to take the chance if it can be avoided.

I feel that collectively the gang here could damn near write the book on how these trolls work based on the past year we’ve had on this forum :P

The US exhortations that Ukraine abandon Bakhmut don't make sense to me.

Their narrative goes; conserve your resources, let them have it as it has no strategic value, concentrate on readying your forces for the big push, stall for time while all the training on the new goodies is going on.

I understand it in terms of what is being said at face value, and it makes sense for a couple of seconds, but when I think it through, I run into a few snags in the logic. The big one is, why do the Orcs stop at Bakhmut, as if that's all they want to achieve? Why wouldn't they just roll over it and keep on going, using the advantage you just handed them?

Ukrainian intelligence believes Putrid's current aim is to take and consolidate all of Donetsk and Luhansk, which makes sense as being the point you want to be at when you then start getting very serious about suggesting peace, which as we know, means we keep what we hold.

So I don't see why they magically stop at Bakhmut when they want all of Donetsk. They would keep going and you have gained nothing as this magic moment of a lull in fighting where you get to conserve your forces doesn't actually happen, and you have just handed them the advantage of having the infrastructure and cover of Bakhmut while they continue to push west, while you are now in the open. Resisting the take-Donetsk push does not get easier if you give up on every engagement of attrition and hand every settlement over while you are back to fighting in the open and they have the cover.

Surely the US suggestion isn't because they actually want Putrid to achieve his aims and the inevitable suing for peace, because that's the whiff I am getting from this suggestion to give up Bakhmut.

The Ukrainians are not stupid, and the fact they are steadfastly refusing to follow the US 'advice' on this suggests to me they probably don't see the point to it either.

By you comments its easy to see that you have never lived or worked in a war zone, and that's for certain sure!! You simply haven't a clue.

An interesting report in the Guardian today about software that generates & controls fake accounts. These bot accounts don't just replicate and spread stories, it seems they are also capable of making up coherent replies a la ChatGPT type software.

Given the international nature of this thread, you'd wonder if a few of the users who pop up here are not examples of above. Of course more likely to be actual human Russian sympathisers, but you couldn't rule out ai generated replies either from several. When you keep an eye on this thread over several months, you sense a certain pattern and patter in some users responses. A predictability. There the ones I'd be thinking could be ai bots. Anyone else think?

For the third time or fourth time, they need vehicles. With wheels. Ideally military vehicles, but in the absence of those, normal cars will do. You do realise that behind the lines they have roads, aka 80% of the country and personnel need to get around. Get from A to B. For that they don't need a Hmmvv, which would be needed near the front, a Clio will do that job.

It's just moving onto a new rathole after mudspud sh!t their pants multiple times over rt access.

There's no discussion, just explaining the same thing in simpler and simpler terms while polluting the thread.

QFT.

If MudSpud has any passing practical knowledge of this conflict, never mind some objectivity, he’d know that Ukraine and European-based UA associations have been requesting donations of civilian vehicles since Feb-March 2022, to assist with internal and external refugee transport, besides military and paramilitary transport away from the FEBA.

I gifted them a Merc C220 CDI last March or April, last I’d heard from LUkraine (local UA assoc., reg’d as new owner) it was in/around Donetsk, still helping with refugee transporting. That was July, IIRC. Quicksilver W203, RHD (ex-UK), Lux yellow plates (if still on them), if you ever see it in a photo, giz a shout 😉

We’ve organised and sent bigger and better since, notably firetrucks and ambulances, as have many other EU (and non-EU: UK) countries. There’s a **** ton of ex-EU civvy vehicles the length and breadth of Ukraine by now. It’s a big place, and the attrition rate was quite severe, until UA got its anti-air generally sorted more recently.