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  • 02-05-2022 11:56PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,696 ✭✭✭✭


    Louis Leterrier will replace Justin Lin as the director 

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    I have just realised that I never saw ‘Fast 9’.

    Have seen the rest plus Hobbs and Shaw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,992 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    The Transporter 1 and 2 are a decent grounding for a 'Fast' director anyway, so hopefully will do an alright job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,636 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    He did the clash of the titans remake too?

    that wasn’t the best now.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,742 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Leterrier is the very definition of a ‘workmanlike’ director. Just a bunch of vaguely competent but (at best) aggressively mediocre films.

    But we are talking about Fast & Furious here, a series that isn’t exactly auteur-driven cinema. Unless you count Vin Diesel as an auteur of sorts 😎 For all the good work Justin Lin did on Fast 5 - arguably the only really rock solid film in the series, at least IMO - he also directed several of the more silly, anonymous sequels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,961 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
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    Me either but I heard it is absolutely terrible.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Full_Circle_81


    I'd have agreed with you on Leterrier completely were it not for The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance, which was really quite good, and I imagine an absolute nightmare to direct.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,566 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,696 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Added to the list with Brie Larson, Daniela Melchior and Jason Momoa


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    The great Rita Moreno joins the cast as Dom & Jakob's Grandmother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,696 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,902 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Trailer out.

    Talk about cheesy, the family, the family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I’ve seen the first two films but not had the opportunity to see the rest.

    What exactly is the series about? Is “the family” a gang of criminals who use cars in their crimes? Or are they good guys who help people?

    I know I will watch them at some point if they are on Netflix or Prime but I’m just curious about the gist of it all (other then mad stunts, etc.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,965 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    In short, they've gone from small time criminals stealing DVD players by driving fast, to working for a secret government agency to take down global terrorists by doing ridiculously convoluted and nonsensical stunts with cars, and also driving fast.

    They've kinda become the good guys rather than criminals simply because of the level of destruction emanating from their stunts, as the films are pretty much designed around the stunts/action scenes.

    But most of the films are a fun watch. They're just dumb, cheesy fun. 4-7 are decent watches.

    Just leave your brain at the door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Thank you. So it is kind of like KNIGHT RIDER times 10,000 ?

    I enjoy big dumb fun but the never never had the urge to go to the cinema to see them (which is probably the best way) - I have seen a couple of trailers and got annoyed at the amount of times the word “family” is used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,965 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah the "family" thing gradually becomes so overdone that it's the main source of cheese in the films. It doesn't even feel tongue-in-cheek at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I saw part of the trailer.

    How do Vin Diesel and Elsa Pataky’s character have a sim who is black?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,965 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I don't think the child or actor are black, just have strong Central/South American genetics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    No I think he is black - as “African American”.

    I googled to see if you are correct and that lead to photos of the character I. A previous film and that kid looked like he is South American but the this new kid is a complete different skin colour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,965 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The new actor is Leo Abelo Perry, who was in Cheaper By The Dozen and a TV special of Beauty And The Beast. At the very least he's mixed-race. Either way they're casting for ability rather than skin tone. It could just be poor lighting in the scene from the trailer (he's inside a car and so would be more shadowed anyway).

    Besides, he's Vin Diesel as a child:

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    I wouldn't worry about it too much. Trust me, Dom's kid could be Asian and it'd still be more plausible than 90% of the movie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Cast for acting ability not looks in a Fast and Furious movie? You jest, surely.

    No doubt though we are headed for movies and TV shows were diversity overshadows logic in regards casting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,965 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    It's already one of the most diverse casts for a big franchise. The central cast has actors/characters who are black, mixed-race, latino, asian and white. Even then casting a child actor who looked more Hispanic/Latino would still be logical casting and also diverse casting. Dom has Carribbean/Central-American heritage, and Elena (Elsa Pataky’s character) was Brazilian.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Of all franchises, the Fast one doesn't need to worry about diversity. And as Penn said, logic has been in the rear view mirror for a long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,902 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I'll be honest I thought Vin Diesel was of Italian heritage.😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    You misunderstand.

    I referring to the boy being black despite neither parent being black and your comment that he could Asian and still make more since than the rest of the film.

    What I meant I see diversity casting going truely mad and casting for example a tv show about a black dad and white mum having a biological child that is Asian



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,965 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think Vin Diesel himself does have some Italian heritage, but I think they changed it for Dominic. When Cypher's talking to John Cena in F9, she says something about it was only when she researched him that she realised the Toretto's have some Nordic DNA too, I guess to show why Dom and Jacob can still be brothers despite the differences in their skin tones etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,965 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    No I get that, I was saying that the actor they chose (who is mixed-race) could still reasonably pass for being Dom & Elena's son despite being more dark-skinned, as their characters both have strong Central/South American heritage, and that they cast for the best actor who could reasonably play their son (given that the actor they chose has had some decent roles and performances). My comment about having the child be played by an asian actor was just a joke given the unbelievability of everything else in the film.

    Likewise in my above post, they cast John Cena as Dom's brother despite Cena being white, and they added in a line of dialogue to try explain it away and just ignore it. Again, they're casting for who best fits the role above all else.

    If you have issues with how diversity in casting is changing or that it's "going truely mad", that's a whole other discussion I'm not interested in having.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I’m all for diversity but I was not trying to start a discussion on it. It was a comment and I didn’t expect or need a response.

    I was bored of all the white people on screen.

    The example I gave above was something I can see happening. That is the mad that I was talking about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,910 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Never ceases to amaze me how we got from the first movie, a movie about street racing, heisting electronics, and undercover cops, to what we have now - a bunch of people who can drive well saving the world from nuclear annihilation/rogue nations/bond-like villians, venturing into space, driving between skyscrapers, and whatever else.

    Just because they're good at driving cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,992 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    No, but, y'see, they're really good at driving cars!



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I've seen a not entirely insane suggestion that the Fast franchise has basically morphed into a superhero franchise itself; where the cast are basically invincible super-humans, driving cars also their superpower.



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