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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Another one means a brand new poster who supports the Russian side. They often don't come into the threads openly supportive of Russia though, not initially. They aren't debating in any sort of good faith. They're generally just there to wind up or pollute the thread with scutter. There's still an ongoing one right now on this thread who I'm amazed has avoided being banned so long.

    They opt to skirt around the issue by equating both sides to each other morally or demanding that peace should be sought immediately regardless of consequence. There's nothing aggressive in my post.

    So what's your stance on Russias invasion? Morally speaking?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The ARC integrity has been completely offloaded,and it's a pretty sight,





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,022 ✭✭✭jmreire


    MudSpud

    Well MudSpud, three things are crystal clear from your comment.

    (1) You know little or nothing about vehicle maintenance and repair's except maybe to pay the repair bill from the workshop. You think that there will be multitude of non-standard vehicles confiscated, DeLoreans and Morris Oxfords??? Really? As for mechanical skills, guess what, Ukrainian Mechanics know their jobs very well ( as do Polish and Russian ones, the ones that I've worked with, here and abroad) As for spare parts, in Ireland, if you order any part before 11 am, 90%+ of the time, you will have it following morning or afternoon. Same service available throughout the EU, which includes Poland, so also Ukraine.

    (2) Likewise, you possibly know even less about Logistic's than you know about Vehicles. (If that's possible) AND 3rd:-

    (3) The nearest you have ever come to a front line is what you have seen on TV.

    The best you can come up with are sarcastic and derogatory remarks MudSpud.

    Yeah,,, thats your standard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,022 ✭✭✭jmreire


    What gets lost in the consciousness is the fact that Russia is a mafia state, headed by Vladimir Putin. Once viewed like that, all is crystal clear. No other explanations needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,022 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Russians are shooting everything and anything that comes in their sights..Men, Women, Children, Hospitals, Cemetery's, Apartment blocks, Nurserys Playschools, anything, literally, marked or unmarked. There is no mercy shown by Russian military, not even to their own,when the situation demands it. especially when the situation demands it,,,,there has been reports of Russian officers shooting their own wounded soldiers, rather than rescue them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,022 ✭✭✭jmreire


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Again, i'm not disputing Russian targetting of civilians and civilian infrastructure. I know Russians are targetting civilians, it's impossible to dispute for anyone with a pair of eyes and an internet connection.

    My point is that the high risk of civilian targetting shouldn't prevent measures being taken to protect them and clearly distinguishing them from military personnel seems like something they themselves might appreciate but it also makes sense logistically within the military to be able to identify your own troops from civilians.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Military kit is not like consumer items constantly churned out for fun and profit. The US F/A-18 is still one of the most capable platforms in the world and it first flew over 40 years ago. The B-2 bomber first flew over 30 years ago and has been in service for over 20. How old is the B-52?

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hypersonic missile generally refers to a new class of missiles which are very fast while also being maneuverable.

    Simply going at a hypersonic speed doesn't qualify because hypersonic ballistic missiles have been around for 70 years.

    Kinzhal is an air-launched ballistic missile related to the ground-launched Iskander. They air launch it so that it goes further, that's it's reason for existing. There's nothing exotic about it. It's not a hypersonic missile as defined above. They may be somewhat harder to intercept than the Iskander because it's going a bit faster.

    Ground launched Iskanders (and ballistic missiles in general) are already difficult to intercept. Ukraine have very low success rate against them. If Russia are using Kinzhal it's not to evade interception, it's simply to go further / to launch from further away. As far as I know they have used them rarely and probably mostly to evaluate them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,022 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, SortingYouOut, and I agree 100% with you, as would any right thinking human being, and in the most cases, Country's will do everything in their power to protect their citizens, as indeed Ukraine is doing now and has been doing since the beginning of Putins illegal invasion. Every possible protective measure that can be taken is being taken. The problem is on the Russian side. Putin does not care about human life ( except for his own, and his Family) either Ukrainian or Russian. So normal human behavior goes out the window when it comes to him, and its reflected in his military and their behavior. What can you expect when you press gang murderous and rapacious convicts from your prisons? You can expect murderous and rapacious results, and that's what we are seeing, unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    To bring it back to my point, do you think cars donated to the Ukrainian military should be marked to make them distinguishable from civilian vehicles?

    We're in agreement that civilians are being targetted and that Putin does not care about the human cost of this war or the tactics used.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭Addmagnet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    There can be very good insights on this thread, stick around and you'll see. BUt as mentioned, Russian bots are hard at work trying to derail conversation. There are a number of ways this war ends, the prefered by most here would be for Russia to withdraw from Ukr and then pay for all the destruction, with those responsible going to the Hague for war crimes and getting locked up for good. That's the goal, prob unlikely to get there in the coming years, but with time lets see how it works out.

    What has happened so far is a realisation by Europe that we all need to take our security concerns far more seriously, if this doesn't open a strong debate on an EU army of sorts I'd be very surprised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The f18 is being continually updated and in Most cases already replaced with super hornets,yes the B2 is similar age to the mig31 but Still untouchable,and yes the b52 is heading towards a century of flight if the US keeps it flying,still very few aircraft can drop it's payload,but as we already seen the B2 is going to replaced with the B21 raider and the f22 is getting replaced ,

    Where the mig31 is a one trick pony fly in a straight line fast and not a lot else ,yes gets radars and so on ,but it's a dragster big old Russian engines capable of mach 3 for relatively short period before risking failures , nothing has really changed since the Soviet era aircraft and doctrine for Russia,they did move to thrust vectoring for several aircraft which makes for great aerobatics during airshows , but it's next to useless in aircombat where your getting hit with a missle long before you get to see who's actually shooting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,022 ✭✭✭jmreire


    According to the Geneva Conventions, a Country's military must be clearly identifiable, so all Uniform's and Vehicles used for military purposes have to be be marked as such. For vehicles, it can range from the full out camouflaged military shades of green or blue etc. to any vehicle simply carrying a flag, regardless of colour. So the vehicle in question could be a red Toyota Corolla, carrying the Ukrainian flag, for example. In normal circumstances of course, military vehicles will be painted in various shades of green, grey, beige etc depending on where they will be deployed,,, desert invariably means various shades of beige, shades of green for forested areas etc. But even commercial convoys, with multi colored and types of vehicles travelling in Ukraine, will normally have Ukrainian flags, or Ukrainian military escort vehicles.The bottom line is that they are identifiable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,022 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, but as it happens, it is a shade of military green, and carrying the Ukrainian Flag ( plus the German one) but equally, it could have been any other color too once its flagged. I've just watched some convoys heading into Turkey from Syria, and the vehicles are all shapes and sizes, but all are marked as been in the convoy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Could the USA end this war tomorrow if they wanted too? A few F-22s and F-35s over Russia with a few nukes dropped on Moscow and wherever else they need to drop them on the Nuke launch sites and other cities and Russia would never even see them coming because they are stealth planes.

    Putin might survive for a while in his bunker but eventually he would die a slow death and its not like Russia being taking out would have any major effect on the Worlds economy because well there are a periah state now.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,073 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Figures...

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    My father was an alcoholic and a looter

    Volodymyr Putin, an employee of the Sverdlovsk NKVD, worked in the authorities in 1936, was dismissed for drunkenness and domestic disorder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,051 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Putin wouldn't survive too long if a crack squad of US commandos took him out in a raid involving zip lines and smoke bombs. They could have cool catchphrases, too.

    Few nukes. Bitta shootin'. Back to Washington for beer and medals.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    As much as I want to see Russia lose this war, that would be an absolutely f*cking awful, world ending strategy.

    Besides America wouldn't even need Nukes. They could do this next week with their conventional weapons if they wanted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,410 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I'm not a psychologist but Putin does seem very damaged (like a lot of fellow dictators). Cold and distant and incapable of forming personal relationships etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,073 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


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    Lol Great trolling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,133 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    They couldn’t even take out Bin Laden in the middle of nowhere in Pakistan without losing a chopper, not sure that would be the best way to take him out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭maebee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Well, he'll need to avoid:

    Stairs

    Windows

    Umbrellas

    Cities with nice Cathedrals

    Swimming pools

    Baths

    Tea

    Locked bathrooms

    Plenty more....

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Some suggestion today that Ukraine are biding their time and preparing for a Spring offensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Typically they paint them or mark them as such anywhere near the action. One of the foreign guys fighting over there I follow has requested donations to cover an SUV, when they got one, they repainted it. It's not Feb 2022 with Russian units mingling with civilian cars, there's a consistent front-line now, so less of a need to mark out all vehicles, especially back-line stuff that is just used to ferry soldiers and their stuff around.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yes good point. They would have to find them with there's first I suppose to take them out.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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