Russia - threadbanned users in OP

threeball · 10-02-2023 04:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120223915#Comment_120223915

A10s and cluster bombs would have a field day against these Russian columns. One plane would decimate an entire battalion.

Dohnjoe · 10-02-2023 04:22PM

https://twitter.com/maria_drutska/status/1624019007572520965

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rogber · 10-02-2023 04:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120223314#Comment_120223314

Romania denies that any missiles crossed its airspace, in which case NATO has no reason to respond

Dohnjoe · 10-02-2023 04:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224702#Comment_120224702

I saw that, it's disputed. Meanwhile this stuff is constantly flying over poor Moldova, who've always been next on the list for the Kremlin

odyssey06 · 10-02-2023 04:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224713#Comment_120224713

And tankies wonder why so many ex-USSR countries wanted to join NATO. And now Finland and Sweden.

This is how Russia treats 'neutrals'.

10-02-2023 04:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224574#Comment_120224574

If you can prove half the s…te you come out with,maybe you wouldnt get the response you are getting,just a hint

odyssey06 · 10-02-2023 04:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224574#Comment_120224574

Sure show us some examples where your 'neutral level headedness' plays out into a pro-Ukrainian or anti-Russian view.

Instead all we see is 'neutral level headedness' being manifested as repeating pro-Russian or anti-Western propaganda cues.

We've not confused. We see through the charade.

zv2 · 10-02-2023 04:44PM

What it takes to fly an F16 This Is How Long It Would Really Take Ukraine's Pilots To Convert To F-16s (thedrive.com)

Gatling · 10-02-2023 04:53PM

Yesterday at Vuhledar 31 tanks and other vehicles destroyed by Ukrainian forces while 500+ Russians killed in a single engagement,but suffered more losses in the same area earlier in the week

https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1624062604976037890?s=20&t=2fPthlhIb4qAY3W5K5J8MA

Dubh Geannain · 10-02-2023 05:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224821#Comment_120224821

The talk of Russian attrition has quietened down somewhat in the last while. I don't exactly know what to make of Wagner no longer recruiting from prisons and while today was another bad one the frequency of rocket attacks has noticeably abated at least. But quantity still seems to be on their side, for now.

Waiting them out looks more and more like the least favourable (but the only real) option at the moment. They need to be kicked out and hard or they will just keep coming.

macraignil · 10-02-2023 05:06PM

russians continue their attack on Ukraine's civilian population with air defenses shooting down 61 of the 71 cruise missiles and 5 Iranian drones launched already today. Also seen Zelensky broadcast where he claims their radar saw missiles flying through Romanian airspace in spite of denials from the NATO member that this happened.

Fighting Tao · 10-02-2023 05:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224880#Comment_120224880

There has been plenty of mentions of it here but the Putinbots like to ignore it. They place the same value on all lives, I.e. none. They just don’t care.

dasdog · 10-02-2023 05:31PM

Patron is still doing his day job working as a Sapper.

He also now has an animated cartoon series on YouTube which warns Ukrainian kids about the dangers of mines/unexploded munitions.

Dohnjoe · 10-02-2023 05:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120225016#Comment_120225016

Many are mines and boobytraps deliberately set in household furniture, pianos, behind doors, in gardens. They have to make a children's cartoon because of the callous depravity of the Russian military.

Dohnjoe · 10-02-2023 05:56PM

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https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1624075644161216512

MudSpud · 10-02-2023 05:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120222763#Comment_120222763

Sachsenhausen was a prison for poitical prisoners. It wasn't particularly harsh and certainly not for Bandera.

You're correct about Belsen and Buchenvald.

Wibbs · 10-02-2023 06:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224702#Comment_120224702

I'll bet NATO will continue on this tack unless something really obvious kicks off. They were quick to poo poo the stray rocket into Poland, even while Ukraine were hopping up and down saying it was Russian. Within hours NATO/US said nope, a Ukrainian missile and kept the Ukrainians out of the investigation loop.

NATO do not want to escalate this directly. Biden has said straight up that US/NATO personnel will not be deployed in Ukraine because that's "World War 3". IMHO US/NATO while again happy to give training to Ukrainian troops since 2014 had near zero intentions of adding them to NATO itself. That's Russian BS. For all sorts of reasons, not least their issues with corruption and a dodgy civil war in the east of the country and yep their far right elements which the US State dept noted and pointed to before this invasion kicked off.

I suspect they're surprised how this kicked off and especially how it's going. I reckon they were just as surprised when Zelensky made his now infamous line "I don't need a ride I need ammunition" and the forecast originally was Russia would take the capital and it would be denouncements in the UN, sanctions, Russia is a rogue state etc, but got a shock when that didn't happen.

I further suspect many of the NATO allies quite simply don't have the men and materiel to actually fight Russia, even if they had the stomach for it and they certainly don't have too much spare kit to be handing out. Germany a good example. As I reckoned earlier in the thread, they're not so quick to give tanks for a few reasons, the oul nazi guilt but one of them, but more than that, IMHO they simply don't have enough of them in actual working order to give and this was a big reason they were dragging their heels to not make that so obvious. For years German critics within and without the Bundeswehr have been openly complaining about the lack of preparedness in too many areas. Since the Cold War froze over balls have been dropped, especially in Germany.

Igotadose · 10-02-2023 06:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120225119#Comment_120225119

Not particularly harsh:

"Overall, at least 30,000 inmates died in Sachsenhausen"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsenhausen_concentration_camp

So, lovely place for a holiday?

Did you get that from Stormfront? Hey, is Don Black still running the show there? Was around when we got them off Usenet back in the day, little cowardly Nazi piglets that they were.

MudSpud · 10-02-2023 06:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120223102#Comment_120223102

If you think that the Russians are going to withdraw from Crimea and Donbas in order to enter negotiations then you are dreaming. That is a nonsensical notion. Don't take my word for it, just ask Col. Doug McGregor.

Consider for a moment that the Russians don't withdraw from these area, what then? Do you think Ukraine have the ability to drive them out militarily?

Gatling · 10-02-2023 06:04PM

Looks like the Ukrainans are on the move somewhere.

https://twitter.com/rammstein_fella/status/1624058038192599042?s=20&t=h-s4ApfXLULT78sqVCduhQ

Wibbs · 10-02-2023 06:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120225119#Comment_120225119

Well they thought he'd work for them, but depending on how they viewed him he was put in different gaols. In the end he double crossed them too. One of the major strategic failures of the German nazis was they didn't know how to get allies on board. Their dogma got in the way. They had remarkably little resistance from Russian civilians when they first invaded the Soviet Union. That Union had a lot of pent up distrust and anger at Moscow and Stalin for many reasons, but the nazis saw "subhumans" and didn't take advantage of that.

Dohnjoe · 10-02-2023 06:13PM

Early OSINT analysis already refuting Hersh's claims

https://twitter.com/Joey_Galvin/status/1623459664334659585

MudSpud · 10-02-2023 06:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120222837#Comment_120222837

Were Russia represented at any previous commemmorations?

threeball · 10-02-2023 06:28PM

Space Xs timing of withdrawing satellite usage from the Ukrainians is very interesting in light of the latest Russian offensive. Between Musks utterances on twitter where he promotes Russian propaganda to this latest action from Space X there needs to be serious questions asked.

Gatling · 10-02-2023 06:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120225153#Comment_120225153

They will be withdrawing or they are all facing certain death at the hands of Ukrainans

Wibbs · 10-02-2023 06:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120225153#Comment_120225153

If we took MacGregor's word for things, Ukraine would have fallen in under a week, and then fallen at least three times last year and next week, or was that last week. The guy has found his niche as a talking head among the English speaking pro Russia and putin, "alternative news", conspiracy, Fox, hegemony, NWO/WEF and MAGA types, which Russian spin doctors like and encourage, pretty openly too. Look how often they namecheck a gobshíte like Tucker Carlson. Like I said he rattles out the identical script to Ritter, only minus the rage and gleeful calls for Ukraine to burn. Ritter's gone off the reservation and off the boil, even to many pro Russian westerners.

Though I do agree Crimea is a total fantasy pipedream for Ukraine and the Slava! folks. It would require the total collapse of Russia's forces across the theatre and within Crimea. Plus if there were a line where putin would order a tactical nuke to "escalate to deescalate" that would be the one. He can't afford nor would want to lose Donbas either, it's more a question of how much of it he can practically hold onto. The land bridge between them is possible, but again it will require something like a collapse of Russian forces and/or an even bigger slugging match and offensive that Ukraine can't prosecute, at least at the moment.

As noted many times in this thread, defenders hold more of the cards and Russia is dug in. Yes Russia has been making progress by the yard and losing men and kit with every yard, but Ukraine isn't pushing back into Russian held territory too far either. In Kherson the Russian's legged it(one of the few good tactical moves they've made IMHO) and in Kharkiv the Russian forces proved to be a ragtag disorganised bunch, collapsed and legged it with the Ukrainians barely keeping up with the Russian retreat.

Gatling · 10-02-2023 06:45PM

@Wibbs at what point do you think the Russians can hold Crimea indefinitely with one a single access point via the kirsch bridge,

Kirsch bridge falls Crimea can't be supplied or reenforceed,it would be a turkey shoot for most part,

This idea Crimea is some inprengable fortress is completely comical,one airfield and and a naval base,as it stands the Naval base is now hemmed in and Can't operate,long range weapons start hitting from Kherson or elsewhere in Ukraine it's going to end the same way as all of the other occupied territories,