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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Next time...It should have been tracked and shot down the second it passed into Romania. It wouldn't be an escalation. After what happened in Poland, one would think as soon as Russia launches a large barrage of missiles, neighbouring countries would put their AA on high alert.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Moldovian government resigning


    Source claimed as Reuters but I cannot find a confirmation on it.


    Pressing X to doubt. Until I can confirm.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I heard a commentator on during the week surmising as to what would happen if Ukraine did actually get F-16s etc. Basically was saying as to who would protect the airfields they would be flying from. Those nice long immovable runways would be prime targets for the Russians. I wonder would a VSTOL aircraft like the Harrier II be an option (can't see Ukraine getting F-35B's) because of this? The USMC, Italian & Spanish Navies are still flying them, until replaced by F-35s, I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Absolutely outrageous.

    The only answer is to move patriot missile batteries right up to the border and start shooting anything down that creeps even one millimetre into NATO airspace.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    More orcs being slaughtered but at least the wives/mothers will get a new lada 👍️



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd agree. Better served as an overall Garden of Remembrance about the war. I'd also tear down any Stalin monuments too and a few have been going up in Russia of late as he's been repolished for Russian history.

    Bandera was awarded the highest Ukrainian medal ten odd years back, but that got a lot of pushback, not least fom many Ukrainians(his support seems to have been highest in the far west of the country, rather than the "banderite" east according to Russia). In the end the award was withdrawn a couple of years after that after legal challenges and general disquiet. His fans tried to get it reinstated a few years ago, but that was defeated by a vote in the Ukrainian parliament.

    This is another aspect of this whole thing; if Russia wanted to rid Ukraine of nazis, why didn't they do it back then when Bandera was more popular and actial neo nazi parties were holding government positions? Was it perhaps because Ukraine was in their pocket and obeying Moscow? Yet since 2014 when both polls and people voting with their feet showed support for neo nazis was falling off a cliff and they could even secure one seat, Moscow ramped up the nazi reason?

    This can be applied to the civil war in Donbas too. Of the 15000 combined deaths on both sides of that sectarian conflict, the majority were killed between 14-16 and it had calmed down quite a bit since then(though was still simmering), so why didn't Russia go in and "protect her people" when they were actually being killed and injured and fleeing? That would be akin to the British army going into Ulster to protect Unionists in the 90's rather than the 70's.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    They could operate out of the airport close to the Polish border. Russia may not risk trying to target it. It's far from the Frontline however. Just need to find a place close enough to launch sorties from, but out of range of ground launched S300 systems, but still within the protection of the Patriot systems when they arrive.

    Or just just what ever infrastructure they currently use for their Migs. It won't be their first fighter jets after all.

    Finland and Singapore have trained on takeoff and landing on regular roads.

    If the US or the west wanted to give fighter jets, they will find a way. Lack of runways would be least of the issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    I don’t think he has a normal brain, I think his sense of empathy is severely lacking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Very interesting short piece on a unit repelling a small Russian probing attack and how they do it




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Bitcoin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Yet just a few posts back you said:

    "I don't know anything and I didnt say I did. I just posted a link to an interesting story I thought was relevant in the context of this conflict."

    So which of your statements have any truth to them or do you not like the question I clearly asked you? Is it true you read newspapers or that you know nothing and are just posting misinformation to support the increasingly boring playbook that russia is somehow the victim in invading Ukraine?

    For your information I have read newspapers and find you implying I have not done so stange. You are responding like a child. Are newspapers some how something unusual where you are from? Is it part of your job to read newspapers to scrape the bottom of the barrel for anything that might potentially be positive for putin and his genocide in Ukraine?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,622 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Move in a straight line and tight formation, that'll confuse the enemy for sure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    So tanks and longer range missiles deliveries well under way. Putin still hasn't launched nukes. I can't wait for fighter jets and attack helis to be announced so we can finally stop hearing about red lines and nuclear sabre rattling.


    At that point the red line would be shifted to a NATO country directly entering Ukraine or Belarus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Time for the 155 artillery and guided shells to shine. May as well be watching the videos from last year, remember the tank column entering a town single file. Ukraine decimated that and they are better armed now! Even without western tanks, I think this advance from Russia will prove even more costly. Probably launched too soon to get gains for the 1 year anniversary and also before western tanks arrive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    This rumour has been circulating for a few months now - hopefully there is some truth to it, but the ball is in Jordans court...

    People, and the media, got all hung up on a few dozen leopard 2 tanks going to Ukraine but seem to have no interest in potentially hundreds of challenger 1 tanks going.

    An updated C1 is probably a better tank than the Leopard 2a4 - at least in terms of armor. It's miles ahead of the 1a5 and far better than most if not all Russia tanks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Guarantee scholz will block any being bought to be sent to Ukraine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    They're British made so Scholz can do SFA about it if another country decides to buy and send them. The only thing I'd imagine as a real practical hangup is the logistics for a 40 year old tank.

    Is supporting these tanks even logistically possible? I'd imagine not many countries would have spare parts for them lying around. Would be sweet if possible though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,312 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    My newspaper statement was in a different context altogether. We were talking about the apparent opinion misalignment between US military & US politics.

    The first statement was in clear reference to the Hersh article*.

    If you try having a go at me maybe sort out your own head first. The fact you're actually getting 'thanks' for your incoherent reply just confirms my thoughts about this thread.

    * Which I cross read again btw. Where does he say it was Norwegian mine sweepers? Like I said I only cross read it. It's lengthy and makes sweeps into history and such and I'm on a workday, I might have genuinely missed it. But since you seem to know you might be able to point it out to me.

    And wtf is all that sh1te about where I'm from? I'm on boards for what feels like forever. On my 2nd account admittedly. Where do you think iI'm from?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    In theory they could deploy 100 of them and keep others to be cannibalized ,but if they have that many tanks ,they would also have some spares too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,069 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Don't dis plastics. If you made a tank hull out of thick enough Dyneema (UHMWPE), it would probably be tougher while weighing a third or less the weight. Might be costly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭macraignil


    "And wtf is all that sh1te about where I'm from?"

    I asked a simple question trying to find out if newspapers were somehow unusual where you come from since you felt you had to make a point about reading them yourself and suggested I should try to do so myself. I really don't care where you are from but if you would like me to guess I'd say Trollskyland due to the volume of pro russian vomit you keep referring to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Some of these are posters who have previously claimed that e.g. Russia weren't killing civilians in the invasion or that the US was somehow behind it and so on. Reductionists and revisionists who pander to simplistic narratives rather than reality. The "smarter" ones create new accounts or are just happy to play a cautious role of contrarian in the threads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,312 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Thats the problem with you and most others on this thread. You're confusing attempts at neutral level-headedness and rationale with pro-Russian. You're falling for that 'if you're not with us you're against us' thing.

    With that attitude you're only setting yourself up for disappointment when it inevitably turns out the world is not as simple as that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Competing to see who can be the biggest failure apparently

    "The head of the Wagner mercenary group repeatedly criticized the Russian military leadership. Defense Minister Shoigu is also in the firing line. This is now apparently sending fighters from the Patriot military company to the Donbass. The security company is considered a competitor of the Wagner group.

    According to Ukrainian sources, after the Wagner group, Moscow is moving another group of mercenaries to the Donbass. Accordingly, fighters from the private military company Patriot were sighted near Wuhledar in the Donetsk region. This was announced by Serhii Cherevatyi, spokesman for the eastern group of the Ukrainian armed forces, according to the online portal Ukrajinska Pravda in a TV interview. The information cannot be independently verified."

    ""In particular, in the Stepne area on the Wuhledar front, we noticed that in addition to the Wagner group, the Patriot military company, associated with the current Russian Defense Minister Shoigu, also appeared," Cherevatyi said. "Obviously they pull all combat powers in order to achieve at least a few successes." Asked about rumors of a conflict between the two mercenary companies, Cherevatyi said that the Wagner group and the Patriot company were competitors. However, both would currently be deployed on different front sectors."



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