Conor McGregor

YFlyer · 09-02-2023 02:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120219691#Comment_120219691

Google is just telling me Conor is 16 Kg more. So he would have the weight advantage.

Homelander · 09-02-2023 03:09PM

We are entering peak delusion if someone seriously thinks Katie Taylor would "box the head off McGregor". He's about 20kg heavier and hits incomparably harder.

Does no-one remember Lucia Rijker. Considered the deadliest female kickboxer in the world, had a record of 35-0, most of which were KO's.

She fought a low-level male kickboxer who was the same weight as her and got KO'd easily.

Katie being a good technical boxer would absolutely not come close to overcoming the power coming back in her direction. This is like saying that Dustin Porier would beat Francis NGannou because he's a far better technical boxer.

That's all well and good until you get clocked with a haymaker that's twice the power of anything you've ever been hit with before.

Danzy · 09-02-2023 03:12PM

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You have obviously never boxed.

One round and maybe two because he has little boxing experience and might not want to kill his opponent.

That would be if he was up against a world champion.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 09-02-2023 04:15PM

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It was obvious McGregor never boxed, more like.

He could physically dominate the likes of Taylor, who is much smaller than him and past her prime. But if he fought the world’s best heavyweight female boxer in the boxing ring, in the prime of her career, she would pick him apart like a surgeon. No question.

Danzy · 09-02-2023 04:18PM

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No, it would end in a knockout, would Katie Taylor at her prime beat a 17yr old Irish school boy national champion? Maybe, maybe not.

The difference is that stark.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 09-02-2023 04:55PM

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Yeah it would end in a knockout for the heavyweight female boxer. McGregor isn’t a boxer, he wouldn’t have a hope against a heavyweight professional boxer of any gender.

Homelander · 09-02-2023 05:11PM

Look, just stop. You're confusing the fantasy you'd like to see happening with reality.

The basic truth is that men and women have colossal strength and power differences at the same weight.

There's a reason in practically every sport that female world champions can be bested by young male amateurs.

That's not to take away from women. Katie Taylor in particular is a spectacular fighter and role model. But biology is what it is.

It's OK not to like McGregor. But random nonsense like a technical female fighter would beat the brakes off him is just absurd in the extreme.

I've already posted the above example where one of the most lethal ever female fighters with a very high KO rate/zero losses in her entire career was starched by a nobody male fighter, at the exact same weight.

ohnonotgmail · 09-02-2023 05:48PM

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the heavyweight womens class fight at 175. McGregor fights at 170. with comparable weight mcgregor will be much stronger.

EmmetSpiceland · 09-02-2023 05:56PM

I wouldn’t be advising any woman to get into the ring with McGregor. Not for any boxing reasons.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 09-02-2023 05:58PM

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You’re not comparing like-with-like with your kick-boxing illustration. McGregor isn’t a nobody boxer, he isn’t a boxer at all.

What I’m talking about is this: you have a professional heavyweight boxer, in a boxing ring, in a boxing match, versus some guy who has barely boxed in their life. The boxer will win the boxing match every single time. It’s not even a question.

Homelander · 09-02-2023 07:03PM

The argument is getting more childish. McGregor is a boxer, he's trained boxing since a young age, the fact he went down the professional MMA route and not professional boxing doesn't mean he's not able to box at a reasonable level.

MMA is full of boxers. Dustin Porier is considered one of the best boxer-strikers in the UFC but he's never fought professionally. He still has trained boxing his entire professional career.

The idea that either man has "barely/never boxed" because they haven't fought in a professional boxing ring is nonsensical. The idea that either man would be boxed around a ring by a female boxer is moronic.

Would McGregor beat lower-level male boxers at his weight class? No probably not. He is essentially a nobody on a skill-basis when it comes to actual male professional boxing, sure. No-one is arguing that.

But the fact he's a very competent boxer/striker, he would kill a high-level female boxer of his own weight class given the ridiculous disparity in power and strength. Arguing otherwise is absolutely ridiculous.

The reason a competent male boxer would easily beat world-level female boxers is the same reason that a 20st male heavyweight boxer would flatten a 10st male flyweight boxer.

Power and strength disparity is comically massive. Someone like Katie Taylor hitting Conor McGregor would be a gentle sparring season for him. Him catching her with a flush hit would probably knock her out.

It's not reasonable or realistic to even think that female boxers could go toe to toe with even amateur male boxers. It's even more ludicrous to suggest that they would "box the head" off them.

YFlyer · 09-02-2023 08:48PM

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A competent striker? He uppercut Mayweather and the older lighter guy didn't even budge.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 09-02-2023 09:07PM

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Mate. First of all: calm down.

Second, you’re talking absolute nonsense. McGregor never boxed competitively, never as an amateur or as a pro. He had a single light middleweight exhibition match like six years ago, prior to that he had zero boxing experience bar visiting a gym a few times when he was a kid. He’s not a boxer, never mind able to box “at a reasonable level” or “competent.” No boxing training or competitive record means that he is not a boxer.

A proper heavyweight female boxer would absolutely box the head off him in a boxing match, regardless of any speed and strength advantages. He literally doesn’t know how to box. In purely boxing terms it would be laughably one-sided in her favour.

Hotblack Desiato · 09-02-2023 10:05PM

Saw this on Tripadvisor (The Black Forge):

Can't believe they were staying in the city centre and went all the way out to Drimnagh to eat pub grub in that kip!

09-02-2023 10:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120221744#Comment_120221744

I don’t know why you can’t accept being told you’re wrong?

You’re talking absolute shite here end of story.

Ush1 · 09-02-2023 10:46PM

Katie Taylor doesn't want to fight men and it's an insult to suggest it to be honest.

Some people really can't comprehend the difference in power of a male professional athlete and a female. There's a reason artificial testosterone is banned in sport, it's a massive advantage, even male on male.

Homelander · 09-02-2023 10:52PM

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The simple reality is that the idea that some of the best strikers in the UFC known for decent boxing would have their "heads boxed off" by professional female boxers in their weight class because the women would be technically sounder is absolutely deluded.

You're literally claiming it there in black and white. That speed, strength and power don't matter apparently. Are you insane?

Someone like Dustin Porier or Conor McGregor landing a combo on a female boxer in their weight class would probably send them to hospital, they'd be lucky to get away with just being KO'd.

You can dance around a simple fact any way you want but it's beyond delusional to think a professional female boxer would actually go 12 entire rounds against these guys and win - and win convincingly accordingly to yourself, which makes it even more farcical.

There's a reason why in literally every physical sport going that amateur males can beat the best women in the world. It's because of biology and physiology, technique and skill absolutely cannot overcome enormous disparity is strength and power.

I would suggest you take this ludicrous argument to an actual combat sports/boxing forum and ask them who would win a fight in the same weight class, McGregor/Porier or a female professional.

I'm not sure why we're even limiting it to McGregor and the likes of Porier, who would probably kill a woman of the same weight class in a boxing ring.

You could pluck a decent amateur striker from an MMA gym in Dublin and they'd still beat a female professional boxer.

Danzy · 09-02-2023 11:06PM

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Hanna Gabriel is a current heavy weight boxing champ, have you even seen her fight?

Hannah would not knock out McGregor if his hands were tied behind his back for the first round.

It would be criminal to let her fight him, boxing novice that he is, a full round might see her dead.

I only boxed for a few years and for the fun but I can tell you the difference between men and women boxing is vast.

There are 16 yr old boys boxing in Ireland who would beat Katie Taylor at her prime and they'll never be champions.

She might land more hits, be a nicer fighter but they'll not hurt and messy punches from him will break through and do serious damage, possibly life altering damage.

I have fought women in training in Tae Kwon Do, one of whom was training for the worlds and a few of us were picked to get her battle ready.

The difference is vast.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 09-02-2023 11:12PM

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McGregor, who is not a boxer and whose striking is massively overrated (see how he landed massive punches on Mayweather and the old fella in the pub, neither of whom flinched) would absolutely lose to a heavyweight professional boxer of any gender in a boxing match.

He hasn’t been in any fights in years, he is a bloated has-been who is a decade past his prime. He wouldn’t be able to catch anyone in a boxing ring, and if he did his punches would land like he’s underwater. Time catches up with us all, unfortunately, and he’s had his day.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120222087#Comment_120222087

Grow up, would you. This is a discussion forum.

Danzy · 09-02-2023 11:15PM

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Mayweather is one of the finest boxers in history, and from a family of boxers who trained him very hard from childhood.

It was frankly child abuse the way he was treated.

Forget McGregor put the best u17 middle weight boy from Ireland up against Hanna Gabriels, the heavy weight champion.

fullstop · 09-02-2023 11:18PM

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He was just telling you that you’re talking through your hoop…which is true 🤷‍♂️

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 09-02-2023 11:23PM

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“Forget McGregor” 🙄🙄🙄

This thread is about McGregor ffs. Nobody thinks any female professional boxer could beat any male professional boxer.

The question was if McGregor (who is not a boxer and never boxed in a competitive match) could be beaten by a professional female boxer of his size (so not Katie Taylor btw) in a boxing match.

The answer to that could only be yes, unless you’re one of those people who think the Sweet Science is all about thuggery and brutality like MMA.

Danzy · 09-02-2023 11:24PM

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Say you take a lightweight, for the boxing experts, thats 132 lbs,60kg.

A 43 lb weight advantage to the female heavyweight boxer, would that be a fair fight or one she could win, against an unknown.

Probably not.

Danzy · 09-02-2023 11:33PM

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My point is that Katie Taylor at her prime could not beat a 17yr amateur Irish national boy who was 3 weight divisions down from her.

No need to explain to you that that would welterweight.

Never mind McGregor, he wouldn't even consider it hard training and as pointed out, he isn't a boxer, a striker certainly but not a boxer.

Where did you do your boxing?

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 09-02-2023 11:42PM

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This isn’t about Katie Taylor vs a random male amateur this is about McGregor (a man who is not a boxer) vs a professional boxer close to his own weight in a boxing match.

It’s exactly the same thing as grabbing a random (male) punter off the street and putting them into the ring against a female pro of the same size. The random punter wouldn’t stand a chance in a boxing match, just like McGregor. Because he is not a boxer.

People who go on about pros vs amateurs or 10 stone boxers fighting 20 stone opponents are shifting the goalposts to suit their own arguments. My point is obvious, and true. The truth stings like a bee.

Homelander · 09-02-2023 11:49PM

McGregor is no better a striker than some random lad off the street in a boxing match. That really strengthens your already comical claims alright.

This is really 1+1= 3 nonsense.

Danzy · 10-02-2023 12:00AM

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He is not a professional boxer or a carded amateur boxer but he still has years of boxing training, striking training, he has about 17 years of serious training behind him.

There would be no contest, there would be no contest if Taylor and Amanda Serrano were both fighting against McGregor at once.

I can't understand why you think that it would be anything but a demolition of Taylor. I completely agree with you that he is not a proper boxer.

I would fear for her health and life in one round, if he was just going serious instead of all in.

I don't understand why you think it would be anything different, no female fighter does.

It's very obvious that you haven't even a passing interest in boxing, nevermind even had a bit of fun in the gym.

mdwexford · 10-02-2023 12:02AM

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You are very embarrassing.

Must be trolling.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 10-02-2023 12:12AM

He has 0 years of serious boxing training. MMA training doesn’t count, it’s a totally different sport.

Like I said his striking is overrated and McGregor got as far as he did by starving himself into weight categories he was naturally far too big for anyway. He was a gifted promoter but an average athlete, he would be caught out very quickly if he had to compete in any other fights again.

As for Taylor, bringing her into it over and over again is another absurd shifting of the goalposts: nobody thinks Katie Taylor would stand a chance against McGregor in a boxing match.

But a heavyweight professional female boxer? Absolutely, 100% loss for McGregor. No contest.

I’ve said my piece, I’m disappointed the level of debate never went beyond “b-b-b-but he’s a man,” and that people didn’t resort to inventing false equivalencies one after the other.

10-02-2023 09:40AM

What a strange thread this has become.

Conor McGregor

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