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Currently buying/selling a house? How is it going? READ MOD NOTE POST #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Mimojo


    Anyone get Mortgage Protection Insurance lately? We are approved with BoI and they are pushing getting MP & Home Insurance with them, I assume you dont have to go with them and go with a third party instead? Have a quote for beatthebank today through Royal London, and provides for dual coverage. Anyone else getting MP recently and have recommendations? Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Helpneeded567


    Hi All,

    I have a question I'm hoping someone can help me with. My current house is sale agreed and I'm sale agreed on another house. Both going along very smoothly but we haven't contracts signed yet, happening in the next week hopefully. Before drawing down my mortgage on the new house I need to have house insurance and am wondering on what dates to insure from? Can I insure if for next week even though the house will not officially be mine and no one currently lives in it? Also bank are looking for letter of indemnity to note the interest of the bank, do I request that of the insurance company when I get the house insured or is this something the solicitor does?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,090 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Just confirming - you don't have to go with BOI tied provider.

    Similarly for home insurance, you can pick your own cover but sometimes it's nearly easier to do this via the bank's provider due to dates etc and ensuring cover is in place exactly from when you want it.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭J_1980


    Probably went into ppr ex-Vat. If you multiply by 1.135 is that the price you paid?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    My new buyers have asked to bring closing date forward a week, so hopefully will be done and dusted next month, definitely has been a longer process than I thought it would be. Hoping no more interest rate hikes and smooth sailing now for a closed deal, 3rd times the charm!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Put it up for sale end of July, had a cash buyer straight away, they pulled out as something that suited better came on market, went sale agreed again, they were slow to do anything then when rates went up they backed out (solo buyer), then went sale agreed straight away again and thankfully these buyers are brill everything moving well. So heres hoping, I genuinely didn't think it would be 7 months to be honest (probably naive of me). Still not over the line until its signed and sealed so just on tenterhooks now until its done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Thanks for that.

    putting our house for sale soon, pictures and all that are being taken next week, area we live the activity isn’t huge like a house a week kind of thing changing hands. We technically won’t be in a chain as we’ll only be going for AIP towards the end of the sale (if it happens) kind of looking for a smooth but not too quick experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭frank730


    BOI advised me to have it insured before we ask for drawdown, not from the date you move in, so yes the house is not even yours at that point but banks won't allow drawdown until you have all required paperwork ready



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭blarb


    Just an update on how the rest of the process went now that we have finally finished the selling and buying!


    Week 8

    Sale: no update

    Purchase: no update


    Week 9

    Sale: buyer signs contracts, we counter sign

    Purchase: we receive our loan offer from PTSB, we sign contracts for purchase and sign loan offer


    Week 10: Christmas

    Week 11

    Sale: closing date set as 27th Jan

    Purchase: set up home insurance and mortgage protection


    Week 12

    Sale: no update

    Purchase: no update


    Week 13

    Sale: no update

    Purchase: sellers counter sign contracts, our solicitor requests funds from PTSB


    Week 14

    Sale: we completed the sale on Friday and moved out as agreed

    Purchase: we were waiting on our own funds to be released from ptsb. Last minute paperwork issue raised by ptsb on Wednesday afternoon! Didn't make it through final checks till Thursday afternoon, and we were told it could be next week when funds would be sent - this was a major disappointment as we had to move out of our house on Friday. Thankfully the sellers of our new house were happy for us to move our stuff there on Friday. In with my parents we went then until the funds were sent and purchase completed.


    Week 15:

    Purchase: completed on Tuesday afternoon at 3:30pm, we got the keys at 5pm. Exhausted, we picked up our dogs from kennels and in we went! Glad to be done, we love the house, and I'm glad we bought this with the intention of it being our forever home, as I don't want to be in chain ever again, even if our chain was short, I dread to think what it's like in longer chains!


    Overall though, things went very smoothly, aside from that final delay on our banks side. Wishing everyone luck with their buying/selling. This forum has been really helpful along the way, so thanks to everyone for contributing!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Dolbhad


    Are people selling their houses first and then lining up a purchase?

    We are looking at buying a new build and selling our current house. Hoping to secure a new build first and then sell our house as we will have time but suppose depends on if a builder is happy to sell to us when we need to sell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    We’re selling first kind of, then looking. But that could all change! Delaying putting the house on the market by about 9 weeks so we can have better bank statements and savings routine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭jiminho


    Hi folks, been on the house hunt since late November. Is it just me, or has supply got really poor since the beginning of the year? Very little seems to be coming on the market and the stock that does, is not great. Is there a deeper lying issue eg interest rates, economy etc or is this an annual thing and inventory should pick up in the spring?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭FedoraTheAura


    FTB. After a year, countless viewings, multiple bidding wars, losing out on places by a few €k, and messed around by a few EA’s, just went sale agreed.

    Have ended up with somewhere much bigger than I expected to get, requires no work and in just about my ideal location. Very little I’d change about it at all.

    Obviously a lot that can go wrong before it gets over the line, but just to say to people on the hunt, it’s a very disheartening process but keep your head up. The hard work can pay off. I honestly feel like the BS of the last year has suddenly been worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭Mr Hindley


    That's fantastic news, absolutely delighted that things have worked out so well for you!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    Remember that the new mortgage rules only kicked in this week, allowing people to get more money, so no point in putting house up until people know what they can spend

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Galwayhurl


    January is the lowest pint of every year in terms of listings.


    Compared with January of last year, listings are way up.


    Listings creep up from now onwards, then really accelerate from March to July.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 curgar


    Wondering anyone can advise please.


    Currently selling a property and buying a new one. Bank have told us two weeks ago we have submitted all docs on our end and all good.


    We Signed contracts on Friday for both sale and purchase and solicitor has requested to drawdown funds.


    The bank have now come back today asking for a letter from my employer (tech company who recently announced redundancies) stating I am not affected. Nobody in the company will be told for another 3 weeks if they are safe or not, and we cannot just get a letter like this written up, it has to go through a ticket system and is likely to be rejected anyway.


    We are now bound to sell our house, if the bank don't release funds we have nowhere to go.


    What does one do in this scenario? Surely the bank are bound to follow through with the loan after a certain legal point has been reached. Any advice?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 psych77


    Hi All. Just wondering about time line for house purchase and if anyone else has been affected by BOI interest hike. We had approval, found the house but only went sale agreed last Monday at which time rates had Risen. We had to update our approval with new address of this property and new loan amount. We got that approval today. Survey is organised. Valuation will be organised tomorrow and done asap. I had mortgage insurance on house I’m selling which adequately covers this loan amount but is short 3 years on loan term 😣. BOI of course said they want new MP. I don’t know how long this takes or if it’s completely unrealistic to try get drawdown off funds by 21feb to keep old interest rate? Solicitor is all set to help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭Jasna1982


    I believe we work for the same company 😉

    Can you not get an email from your manager? I know for certain my department will not be affected. I’m sure managers will have a fair idea at this point whether their team will be affected.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 curgar


    Asked and denied :/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭Dante


    I'm finding this stage to be painful. Currently waiting on the vendor to get a land registry map for a couple of weeks now, I'm getting no feedback from anybody.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,182 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Get something on headed paper with a made up name and submit it to the bank. Use “to whom it may concern” and talk in standard business waffle.

    They’re not going to ring the company to check. The bank won’t know if you’re laid off or change jobs or whatever as long as you can pay the mortgage.

    I know I wouldn’t let a house sale and purchase go down because of paperwork inflexibility



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Mimojo


    We are Sale Agreed since mid January, and also approved with BOI. Everything is moving smoothly enough, we were the same and had hoped to get in ahead of the interest rate hike, but we have realised this week that its just not going to happen. We got our revised letter from the bank with the actual selling price, the valuation was done the week after sale agreed. Our solicitor advised waiting until she received the contract to arrange the survey so that the surveyor could review the documents received, the lang reg plan and any issues she wanted them to check out. I anticipated that the land reg map would likely only be a copy coming from the sellers solicitor so had ordered it myself and sent on to our surveyor. I had also reviewed and copied the old planning file in the council to save a bit of time. The sellers solicitor moved pretty quickly and got the contracts to our solicitor mid last week, and in fairness our solicitor reviewed immediately and sent a list of queries for our surveyor to check out. Our survey is happening today or tomorrow with a 1 weeks lead time to received the full report so we should have it by the end of next week, and hopefully sooner. We have MP lined up, just need to insert the start date, same for home insurance. But even with all of this, we are just not going to get in ahead of the 21st. You have to have all documents to BoI by 14th for their review, which only leaves a week. And if anything comes up in the survey and there is a need to go back to the seller, or do further research, it just doesnt leave any time unfortunately.

    Also be aware that the bank will be incredibly busy with lots of people in the same position. For the last hike I couldnt get hold our our mortgage advisor for days with a query, so I am expecting the same this time. It is incredibly frustrating for sure, but we also want to give our solicitor time to review the survey report in full, and ensure that there are no issues in the contract etc. We checked with our solicitor and she said she was happy to go as quickly as possibly, but that it was unrealistic to think we could draw down by then. We also met the EA and seller at the house last week and the seller wants more time in order to move out, so we really we are caught. We are now hoping to be in by Easter, and continue to save ever penny while we wait.

    Sorry its not more positive, just giving your our situation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Mimojo


    I ordered our one directly from the land registry website, I think it was €20 and it came within a week. The ones that came with the contract were poor quality copies so felt it was best to have an original.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 psych77


    Thanks. I know it’s not really realistic at this point. Our mortgage advisor is off today 😣. Wanted to see if Coujf progress stuff a bit more. My husband just got approximate costs from solicitor and they are nearly double what approximate costs were. What kind of prices are you being quoted?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Mimojo


    We were quoted €1500 Professional Fees, asked around a few friends and seems to be a similar for standard purchase from what I can see. We are FTB so just purchase, no sale.

    Then add VAT on the fees, postage costs, Standard Land Reg fees of €700 Land Registry fee to register Deed of Transfer in our name, €40 Land Reg update Folio, €150 searches, €175 Land Reg Deed of Mortgage, €10 Comm of Oaths, then add LPT apportionment and 1% stamp duty on sale price.  

    I find it hard to get our advisor too, and sending emails seems to be pointless!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭skinny90


    Hi folks

    moving to loan offer stage on a new build development…

    one of the steps is that we have a bank evaluation completed

    however the estate is not yet completed, completion is expected April May.

    i understand a final evaluation is completed before draw down however how do we get past this part ? Seems like a catch 22 given we can’t evaluate it until it’s built/completed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭LunaLoo


    Have you spoken with your solicitor. For a sale to be "bound" not only do you have to sign contracts but both parties have to receive a signed copy. Get your solicitor to hold contract until bank issue is sorted. Until buyers have copy the sale isnt bound. Also check your solicitor has a clause in the contract to say the sale wont go ahead if bank decides not to release funds. Its normally in most contracts but lately estate agents are pushing for it to be removed



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭Thephantomsmask


    The valuer does a drive by and certifies that the house spec advertised is in line with similiar property sales in the area for the price. A second valuation will be required for drawdown. The valuer that did mine reused the same template for drawdown as for the loan offer stage when the ground works were only being done (same photo of foundation with no finished house!) and the bank didn't even query it so long as they signed off that it was worth what was being asked.



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