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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #3632
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,811 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120189241#Comment_120189241

    It's pretty bad, driving on the wrong side of the road, not seeing a lit cyclist! Were they cutting the corner or trying to park? Hope they apologised.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3633
    micar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120189241#Comment_120189241

    That could have been seriously nasty.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3634
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,476 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120189429#Comment_120189429

    lit cyclist, not unlit.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3635
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,811 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120189446#Comment_120189446

    Apologies, typo corrected.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3636
    micar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    Report it due to their really poor attitude.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


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  • #3637
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120189440#Comment_120189440

    A very odd turn for a car to make at that point in the road, no way for you to anticipate this as you'd already passed the turn onto the Kilmore road, driver is 100% at fault here, hope you gave them hell for that careless driving, you can pass it onto the Gards at Coolock, chances are however that they will do nothing....

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3638
    Tenzor07
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120189583#Comment_120189583

    Going into the Goblet for a few pints i'd say!


    The driver probably had very poor eyesight and got their licence in "the amnesty" too i'd say...

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3639
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,489 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I'd absolutely report it for the attitude alone.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3640
    magicbastarder
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    yes, would say the same; if the motorist had put their hands up and apologised, that's one thing. blaming the cyclist after having hit them suggests the best way they could learn a lesson, would be a visit from a guard.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3641
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,811 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120189777#Comment_120189777

    A visit from a guard who will show them the video, hopefully.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


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  • #3642
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    100% report, there is no confusion, no discussion here.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3643
    TheHouseIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭TheHouseIRL


    Another ignorant pass and pull in. At least this guy had the decency to hold his hands up and apologise for his cretinous behaviour.


    https://streamable.com/h5aigp

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3644
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,476 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    what were you doing continuing up his inside after he'd clearly started to turn in?

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3645
    standardg60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭standardg60


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120202870#Comment_120202870

    What? He was in the cycle lane

    It looked like the driver was fully aware that the cyclist was there as it seemed they'd stopped to allow the cyclist to proceed on before turning and then at the last minute proceeded as if they hadn't, which makes sense given they apologised.

    There was no way the driver had right of way to proceed with that turn there.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3646
    magicbastarder
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    What? He was in the cycle lane

    so? i'm not saying the driver is in the right. he proceeded up the inside of an indicating car which had also started to turn. and got as far as you'd expect either way.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3647
    standardg60
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120202930#Comment_120202930

    Again, the cyclist wasn't on the road!

    We're back to the argument that he should have yielded when he shouldn't have to. The driver should have yielded as they didn't have the time to complete the turn without infringing on the cyclist's right of progress.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3648
    magicbastarder
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    it's not about right of way; it's about proceeding straight into a clear hazard.

    lest it need to be said, the driver was in the wrong.

    but proceeding up the inside of a left turning car, even when the driver is in the wrong, is wrong.

    your first duty on the road (motorist or cyclist) is to avoid hazards, or creating hazards. the motorist was guilty of the latter, the cyclist of the former.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3649
    standardg60
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120202954#Comment_120202954

    So you're not saying the driver was in the right but happy to say the cyclist was in the wrong?

    For proceeding along a cycle lane has they had every right to do?

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3650
    standardg60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭standardg60


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120202985#Comment_120202985

    Classic victim blaming there.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3651
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,476 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120203011#Comment_120203011

    for the avoidance of doubt.

    the motorist was wrong.

    the cyclist was wrong.

    call it victim blaming if you wish.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


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  • #3652
    [Deleted User]
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    Nutgrove Avenue if I recall? Doesn't looked to have changed in the 15 years since I've rode there. I'd not have been in the bike lane there myself as it suddenly dumps you back on the road a touch further up at the small apartments. Then when it starts back up again you'll usually have a car or 3 parked on it.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3653
    standardg60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭standardg60


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120203062#Comment_120203062

    I will.

    The cyclist was not in the wrong here, attaching any blame to them is akin to blaming a girl for wearing a short skirt on a night out.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3654
    standardg60
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120203106#Comment_120203106

    How it's demarcated? It's as clear as day that it's a cycle lane!

    This shouldn't even be up for discussion

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3655
    magicbastarder
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    say you're driving on the M50, and a car passes you but immediately swerves across in front of you; do you

    A) hit the brakes to avoid a collision

    B) plough on ahead because, hey, it's your right of way, and they shouldn't have done that?

    you do A. you do A every single time because your duty to avoid a collision trumps all else. and you're not an idiot.


    this does not alter the fact that the other driver created this situation; but continuiing straight on into an unfolding hazard is wrong.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3656
    magicbastarder
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    or a more absurd example (i'm going absurdist as i can't believe this is up for discussion).

    say someone has lit a bonfire in the cycle lane in front of you, clearly an outrageously illegal act. do you continue to cycle straight ahead, because it's your right of way and they shouldn't have done that?

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3657
    standardg60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭standardg60


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120203162#Comment_120203162

    There was no collision! The cyclist didn't plough on ahead!

    Honestly i have no idea why both of you are persisting in blaming the cyclist here, they were fully aware of the sh1t driving that was about to unfold.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3658
    standardg60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭standardg60


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120203188#Comment_120203188

    My comparison is right on the money imo, you're both victim blaming. Cyclist should have been more aware, was it actually a cycle lane, cyclist was creating a hazard by being in the cycle lane.

    This is the cycling forum isn't it? Seems to me that someone who isn't a regular poster gets treated differently to anyone in the clique.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3659
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I am so confused here (as I can't hear the video), legally the motorist is 100% in the wrong, morally the motorist is 100% in the wrong. On an unrelated note, not victim blaming, unrelated to the law, if a car overtakes me indicating, I am prepared for it to turn in. I have no sound so don't know what's happening but would I have done the same as the poster? yes I would but only because I'd be prepped to drop anchor, and I am a selfish enough bollicks that on occasion I'd rather be right than unhurt. Anyone who says that you couldn't see it coming is a liar or new to cycling in Dublin. I'd have let a roar, as soon as the wheel turned or the car slowed, that would have raised the dead. Should I have stopped, well, if giving advice to anyone else, I'd say they were a fool to continue expecting a good outcome. This said, I suspect the poster was like me, without sound, it appears they stop pedalling and they break in time. No harm to give the driver a bit of a scare so they don't act the **** in future. Doesn't mean myself or the poster are right.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #3660
    standardg60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭standardg60


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120203385#Comment_120203385

    Well said, poster was clearly aware of what was unfolding and reacted, then gave the driver a bollicking, i'd have done the same myself.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


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  • #3661
    magicbastarder
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    cram, you're out of the clique.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


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