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Club Championships 2022/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,562 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You'd imagine that was raised in the original appeal.

    Kilmacud just making it hard on themselves now and everyone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    True, you can't imagine there's anything new in this appeal that wasn't in their original submission.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    The rule is very clear on it. I agree that there is little point in the appeals to CDC and then DRA.

    I guess if you go to CDC and then DRA, it uses up more time. Maybe then hoping for more pressure on Glen to drop it, or to just say "yerra, no point replaying it at this stage".

    On a practical level, if there was a replay they'd probably like Mannion to get more game time, possibly in the league for Dublin, and for Shane Walsh to be back from Australia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    Glen withdraw from the process



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    "Due to the ongoing proceedings we as a club now do not believe the conditions exist for a replay to be contested.

    "Consequently, Watty Graham’s, Glen would like to withdraw from this process," the statement continued.

    "The club added that the sense of pride and respect they have for their team and management would endure.

    "They have treated us to countless moments of joy, which until recently, we didn’t even know were possible.

    "Watty Graham’s GAC would like to thank our members for all the support they have given to our players, management and committee.

    "The club would also like to extend our sincere gratitude to all the messages of help and support we have received from throughout the country.

    "We will go again. Onwards and upwards. An Gleann Abu!"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,155 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    No replay now as Glen pull out. I suspect they just wanted to show how stupid it was that they'd have to put in a complaint so the rule would be enforced



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Glen have behaved impeccably during this whole process. They seem to have decided they have enough of the bullsh1t and have moved on.

    Pure class - they are the only party leaving this process with their integrity and reputation intact - I wish them nothing but goodwill for the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Glen made their point not overly surprised that there won't be a replay but wasn't sure how that bit would unfold. Anyway a bad week or so for the GAA hopefully lessons learnt though we have heard that before .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭54and56


    Onfield result stands, Glen have withdrawn their objection.

    RTE news : Glen withdraw their appeal against club final outcome

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/0203/1353702-glen-withdraw-their-appeal-against-club-final-result/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,773 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Commonsense prevails.

    Best lesson would be for the GAA to update the method of substitution to avoid it happening again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    And possibly the rulebook and how it's applied



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Glen 1 Kilmacud 0 GAA 0



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭1373


    Kilmacud now the losers, made a mistake that could have had match taken off them and wouldn't admit to it .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,562 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Agree. Kilmacudian arrogance will now be the memory. Well played Glen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Gives the impression that rules were broken, with clear penalties in the rule book …but the GAA are ok with this, their own rule book being broken

    A dangerous precedent, I wonder will we see more extra players being thrown on in tight situations given….big rewards and no recourse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Shank Williams


    I’m happy enough that it probably ruined their celebrations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Bsharp




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭54and56


    Strange way to look at it.

    Kilmacud had nothing to admit to. They clearly felt the officials $hit the bed by the 4th official not following the correct substitution protocol and the ref compounded that mistake by restarting the match too quickly before Kilmacud could get their 2nd substituted player off.

    Whether Kilmacud's position is right or wrong would have been determined at the appeal or ultimately at the dispute resolution authority but we'll never know now that Glen have pulled the plug on the process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    And so say all of us.!! well said. Good Luck to Glen going forward.

    The whole country will be cheering them on next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,562 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It'll be a great quiz question in years to come. 'Who won an All Ireland with 17 men on the field?'



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Bsharp


    And possibly a Leaving Cert Maths question, but all your given to work it out is the referees match report.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    It won't be talked about in a fortnight.

    Kilmacud are All Ireland champions 2023, & that will be forever in the history books.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭tanko


    Kilmacud had plenty of time to get their player off the pitch, they were engaging in gamesmanship and time wasting. Glen did nothing wrong, it wasn’t them that won by cheating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭54and56


    Makes a change from saying they would refuse to fulfill a replay if ultimately ordered to do so I suppose, which we all now know they never ever said.

    It must be very frustrating to all those with anti Dublin / anti super club blah blah blah prejudices that Kilmacud didn't rise to any of the incessant baiting, kept their counsel, didn't play any PR games and just followed the process Glens objection kicked off to calmly put their viewpoint to the CCCC and they have ultimately prevailed.

    Mess of a process but the right outcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,562 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    How do we know this?

    They seemed intent on going all the way in appealing. I don't doubt they would have taken the nuclear option a source from the club threatened, a well known PR pressure stunt by the way.

    I'm anti-arrogance in sport tbh. Whether that comes from Monaghan or Dublin.

    They have prevailed because Glens are the bigger club morally...no other reason. Kilmacud didn't have one care about the integrity of a win or the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    Hahaha gas, the same people on here saying it'll be remembered for the controversy and not kilmacuds win were saying if Glen were given the trophy that's all it will be remembered in the history books. Haha cry more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    It won't be the lasting memory. Even now after just 2 weeks I'm over it. It was a thing that happens in every single gaa match every week, and the extra player didn't even touch the ball. Joe Brolly is talking like the extra player made a full length dive to save a certain goal.

    I think if they replayed it and Glen won, it'd be actually tainted. They would need an asterisk on the roll of honour to explain it. It'll never be mentioned again when past winners are discussed in pubs, bar maybe up in Glen. Because there'll be another gaa shitshow at that particular time that'll be the topic of conversation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,562 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Kilmacud won with 17 men on the field and recieved no sanction for that. I'll remember it and every Kilmacud player will looking at their medals despite what you say.

    And yes, I think Glen would feel as you say, they acted as only they could...for the integrity of the game itself and for that they are the moral winners here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Like Meath's glorious Leinster win in 2010,it's recorded in the history books as a win, but it's still tainted.

    They can clap themselves on the back all they like, but few others will look back at them as true champions given the circumstances in truth.



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