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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,027 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Made me sad when the mentioned a pint at The Rake at the end there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Waterford spoons finally open.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Is this correct?

    10 opened so far, one sold, nine open now in RoI?

    Dublin city centre = 3

    Dublin suburbs = 3

    Carlow, Cork Waterford = 3


    Where is next?

    I know they bought a building in Galway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,027 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Every time a site becomes free in Limerick it's rumoured to be a Spoons or a Nandos. There is always talk that they are actively looking but never anything concrete.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Dublin city centre 4 will likely open next year on Aston Quay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There are ads for short team leases of the old offices above Dublin #4 so it may be a bit lower down the pipeline.

    There's still at least five pub/public bar owners/operators with more than them (Press Up, Fitzgeralds, Dalata, Benny McCabe, GBB/Bru) and I'm sure there's more I can't think of quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Looks like Wetherspoons have abolished their Monday discounts, they survived up until just a few weeks ago but there's now no mention of them on the app or leaflets, and they no longer exist in-store. Always had a feeling these had been made illegal under the provisions of the MUP law which banned promotions lasting three days or less, but they'd flown under the radar for a long time, sorry to see them go. Feckin' nanny state, etc!

    I wonder will they still be able to do the "manager's special" discounts they have occasionally, maybe by stating that it's for three days and just 'happening' to be out of stock on days two and three? Or the little booklets of vouchers you used to occasionally pick up in Spoons'?

    Prices are still great in fairness, but a fair few pints are now approaching €5 which used to be miles out of the Spoons price range. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Planning application submitted in Galway.

    https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/weatherspoons-lodges-plans-for-city-bar-and-restaurant-2/

    Permission for development which will consist of a change of use of the former Carbon Nightclub to provide for a licenced premise and restaurant. The development will consist of demolition and refurbishment works at ground floor level including the front elevation at Eglinton Street. and extension to first floor level to include a roof terrace, customer toilets and staff facilities. The works include internal modifications to provide for public house and restaurant uses; the modifications to existing beer garden area at ground floor level; the provision of a roof terrace/outdoor beer garden at first floor level; all associated landscaping, boundary treatments and all other ancillary site development works necessary to facilitate the development on site



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    One of the best DJ sets I attended in my life was in that place *sobs*



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    What’s the vibe like in the Weatherspoons place on Abbey st? I think I get the bus outside from time to time, was going to make some time to pop in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Doesn't fit in with the usual Spoons ROI vibe of ex-churches or banks 🤣

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Only one way to find out! Stick on the body armour and give it a go 😁

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Lot's of students during the week, but not messy, perfectly fine for a couple after work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Blanchardstown was also a nightclub prior; just not one with any history of international acts playing in it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,261 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Their long mooted plans for Galway are finally with planners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Real ale festival on this week, surely something worth trying at €2.25 a pint.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    thats cheaper than a lot of cans and bottles in the supermarket.

    Read somewhere Spoons are closing about 20 or 30 pubs in the UK, recession must be biting



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    They open and close pubs all the time. I don't think the recently reported ones are really indicative of anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    In general, how are Spoons pubs doing in Ireland?

    Does anybody know?

    Is there any news on further pubs? Aston Quay, Galway?



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    I've been in 5 now in total.

    Blackrock (now closed), Dun Laoghaire, Camden Street, Abbey Street and the Google Dock one. The Dun Laoghaire one is a goldmine, any time i'v been near or in it, it's been fairly full, no matter what time of day or night. I've only visited the others in the evening time, as in post-work pints and food type of thing. They were all jammers every time, but so is pretty much every pub at half 5 on a Friday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,261 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    The proposed Galway one was in the news recently in regards to planners waiting to hear from Spoons on certain issues raised re noise etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Speaking for abbey st and Spencer's dock, tick along to busy mon-thurs, very lucky to get a seat Friday/Saturday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    €6.40 for a pint of Heineken in town nowadays, and that's going to go up soon again. €6.30 in many for a Carlsberg.


    Meanwhile Cork City has much more reasonable prices, and if in doubt head to wetherspoons for a pint of Coors/Carlsberg for €3.70 or Beamish for €3.40.

    Breweries may be putting up their prices but bar prices in Galway city are total extortion. Bring wetherspoons I say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭Blut2


    €8 for a double Hendricks Gin & Tonic in the Camden Street Spoons last week, vs €19 or so in any of the pubs nearby. €3.10 a pint vs €6.70 in the pubs nearby. Its no wonder its incredibly popular considering its actually a nice place inside too.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    bUt teH atMOsPhErE...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mostly said by people who a)have never set foot in one and b) sound like they'd be zero craic in the pub anyway. I'll make my own atmosphere when the pints are half price compared to the 'good' boozers. Banging on about the bar staff is another, like they're incapable of pulling a pint.

    I still remember paying for 6 pints in the Blackrock one when it first opened. Handed over a 20 and got a fiver back in change. For 6 pints!

    Thought there was a mistake and said it to the barman but no, Shipyard was on sale for €2.50 a pint. That would probably cost €35 in most pubs in 2023.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭Blut2


    They at times had some pints for €1.95 on special offer in Blackrock too. I remember getting change from a tenner for 5 pints one night in there a few years ago, it blew my mind.

    The complaints about bar staff are particularly pointless now that they have the great app. I love being able to order a new drink as I'm coming to the end of a drink, its so efficient and easy - no going up to the bar to order obviously, but no even having to find a lounge staff member walking around, order from, pay etc. The app even shows the expected wait time for your drink now too so you can time it perfectly. I'd love if more pubs had an app to order on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭TipsyMcStagge


    Cheapest pint in the Silver Penny is worthingtons at €3.10 a pint can't argue with that.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Think that's currently €2.70 in the Old Borough in Swords.

    They sell Punk IPA in the "South Strand" branch near Google dock for about €4.50 a pint. In the Brewdog bar 30 seconds away it's something like €7.25 a pint. Madness.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    When did the Blackrock one close, hadnt heard about it but not that surprising as it was always a strange location.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Up for sale in late 2021 and was snapped up by Noel Anderson and his rugby international co-investors. Now re-opened as The Blackrock.

    I suspect it was an experiment by JDW to see if the Irish market would work for them. The location wasn't particularly strange but it's smaller than you'd expect for them: I reckon that's why they gave it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Any ideas what price it went for or was that disclosed? And how many pubs is Anderson up to now, is that his third including Lenon & Duke and the Bridge or are there more? I think he was involved with the nightclub in the Plaza hotel in Tallaght at one stage but not sure if thats still the case or what happened there.

    I always thought Blackrock was strange for Spoons in that they were setting up in one of the wealthest suburbs with a value offering, it just didnt seem a good fit for that market. And given they set up during the recession its not like they didnt have a lot of choice on location.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Visited the Waterford Spoons recently when down that way and it was, dare I say it, a decent pub, spread out over two floors and appeared to be a lot of effort put into the detail. Was early evening so hard to say what a busy night atmosphere would be like. Much better than many of their offerings across the water though. Ale was €2:45 with Beamish at €3:30 which is a bargain.



  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭madnessnmayhem


    Was suprise to hear Wetherspoon is taking over my old haunt on Aston Quay wonder when it will start working on it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    They were still looking for short term tenants for the upstairs recently so I'd expect it's at least a year out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭Blut2


    They sold it for "in excess of €2.5mn". Which is a tidy profit considering they'd only bought it for €1.5mn 8 years beforehand.

    The Blackrock location was doing fine until the Dun Laoghaire one opened down the road I believe. There was enough demand for one Spoons experience, but two within a 25 minute walk of each other out in the suburbs was probably an oversaturated market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭beachhead


    25 minutes to DL Spoons- must have been near closing time.Blackrock had a lunchtime/early evening trade then nothing-like most of the village



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Does the Grand Canal Dock spoons have a decent line up? Have to mix with macro drinkers on Friday, but most of the craft beers are showing out of stock on the app (and seems to be a smaller list of cask than the likes of Abbey Street anyway). Hopefully more lines added for the weekend!?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,863 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Usual spoons fayre, the macros, a couple of brewdogs, porterhouse renegade (although that's been out of stock lately) couple of PH cans in the fridge.

    They seem let themselves run low on lots of things and then fully restock, so who knows what'll be back on by Friday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Was hoping it was the last point, that they restock for the weekend. Although I'd be happy enough with the couple of Brehon's they were showing as on cask yesterday tbh!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    How do they do it?

    How can they sell ale at 1.95 in Dublin in 2023? Dun Laoghaire menu:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    1.95 less 23% VAT is 158.5.

    The VAT is 36.5 cent.

    The excise on a 4.3% ale is:

    22.55 *0.568 *4.3 = 55 cent.

    There is 103.5 cent left for the pub and the brewer.

    How is that possible?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Exactly the same way a supermarket sells beer for similar prices: agree a low wholesale price with the producer by buying in huge quantities and then cut your overheads to the absolute bone. And for limited-time special offers, use the beer as a loss-leader to get people in the door and spending money.

    Ryanair does something similar, but for air travel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭walterking


    That's on just a couple of loss leaders.

    Not sure about here, but their model in the UK is to have a good trade from morning through to night.

    Staff and service levels are kept tight and that allows for lower prices as they have lower costs due to the cost spreads been far better.

    In the kitchen there is no need for any qualified chef as virtually everything is vacuum packed in portion sizes and needs reheating rather than cooking. So a "cook" is sufficient. Also means near zero waste in the kitchen and combined with average quality ingredients, the margin is in the food.


    There's a market for it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭Blut2


    It does show how incompetently (or greedily) run so many Dublin pubs are that even suburban ones are "forced" to charge 6.50euro a pint these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I see you point about bulk buying.

    However, you mention huge quantities, would there be huge sales of Dungarvan Copper Coast, Worthington's and Green King in Dublin?

    The buying of large quantities at discounted prices model only works if you can sell large volumes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,847 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Just on a general point, I’ve been in a number of the wetherspoons over the past while.

    many of them serve a clientele that could be diplomatically described as rougher than a badgers arse



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    The Dublin sales of Worthington and Greene King are immaterial: they're bought at chain level and the price reflects that. They will be paying more for Dungarvan and Brehon beers but that's built into the overall model: it allows for purchase of local beers for a higher wholesale price, subsidised by the bulk stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Simple, any time I've been in Keaveeen's Whateveritscalled they've been "out".

    Scrap the cap!



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