The Last of Us - HBO *Spoilers* See warning in post #1

I found this very true with House of the Dragons recently

Nope. What if it was the 6th episode would that be ok? You probably didn't notice but the main characters were in this episode and they completed lots of character development, plot development and world building. Frank and Bill were in the game, they were not invented for the show, they were just enhanced. You have not been coherent in your critism as you claim. I tried to steelman your argument by giving you examples of what could be criticised but you doubled down on the momentum of the show when I clearly showed it didn't stifle it at all. Maybe it was too long and you wanted it to end so you could make bible studies sooner but in terms of the game and the emotional leverage it has, it it totally cannon. I don't like shows/music/movies that the majority love, that is fine, but I can step outside and see why others like things I don't like say the Crown for example or Wednesday. I am sure they are good shows but I wouldn't bother commenting on them especially not multiple times.

I am the worst for this, when I binge I can never remember anything about the episode outside the main theme. I just plow through. In a fluff show like Entourage or the Derry Girls it is fine, but 10 episode HBO dramas, for example are worth the wait to digest, even though you want more.

Loved that as a standalone episode, and felt the ties to the main storylines (although slim) added nice bits of world-building, give us some insight into Fedra's MO, and set some quetions for Joel to ask himself about what sort of live he wants to lead as their journey continues.

Yes, I might have liked to see Bill meet Ellie & Joel as per the game, but, it would have cost us everything else in Frank & Bill's story so I'm glad it went this way. It was heartfelt, funny, poignant, heart-breaking, and when someone is brave enough to choose On The Nature Of Daylight, they know they've got you over the barrel.

Note-perfect performances by both Bartlett & Offerman. Not familiar with Bartlett, but he was excellent. No surprises with Offerman, I doubt anyone could ever convince me of a more suitable casting choice. I mean, he got to live a self-sufficient live; plenty to drink, meat to prepare, stuff to build, and he got to call out the government as Nazis.

I would understand if people weren't mad on it, and felt it was an unecessary detour; but I felt it just showed us more of the world.

The obvious review bombing is embarrasing. Even within IMDB I saw reviewers say the acting was amazing, but everything else was awful - 1/10. It won't hinder my enjoyment of a very great self-contained story.

Thank you.

Just need a glass of lagavulin now to accompany. He’s just the coolest guy.

As someone not familiar with the game, I loved that episode. Didn't find it jarring, just found it tied lots together and brought this different perspective to it all.

Perfectly placed and best episode of TV I've seen in a long time.

But as a TV show you completely missed all those things? Strange that and the passive aggressive tone of your posts is a bit out of place, not sure what your're so annoyed about tbh!

The original Walking Dead was adamant that there would be no explanation of the virus or race for the cure. The protagonists were normal everyday people with no special knowledge. Through Rick we are dropped in after everything has fallen apart.

That policy only sorta changed with Fear TWD.

At the same time Joel is an unreliable narrator. We are not getting any fact from him just what he knows. The viewer knows it was spreading round Jakarta before the big day.

Thought the latest episode was great, total departure from the usual zombie shtick and interesting that there was no menace from zombies at any point, it was other uninfected people who were the threat.

Loving this. So well made.

Ellie character is a bit annoying but outside of that it's superb. Soundtrack is cool.

As others have said, episode per week is the best way to watch TV. We are too used to instant gratification 😀

In the scene where Frank takes him to bed part of me was really hoping it would show your man absolutely pound him just to troll the constant whingebags and perennially angry.

Agreed. Joel's statement about it taking a day simply means that it was day 0 of the rest of everyone's lives. Not that the world went from happy days to apocalypse in a 24hr period. He's not an expert, so his layman's way of explaining it to Ellie sounds odd, even though I considered it a nice touch and it refrained from going into too much artificial exposition, while still getting the general point across.

Isn't there only 9 episodes this season? You can't have too many episodes like episode 3 or you're not really making a series at that point more like an anthology.