Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

Wikidy · 28-01-2023 1:19pm

The pitch didn't look in great condition. Lots of sand and bare patches..... Is it used a lot other than for Ulster games? Seems to be an annual problem now.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 28-01-2023 1:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120169354#Comment_120169354

I believe that the combined provinces xv in the celtic challenge cup will be playing in Kingspan.

There's probably a bunch of domestic rugby games played in the Kingspan but I don't know.

I remember reading a few years that Donnybrook hosted about 300 games a season which might give an idea about the amount of domestic rugby in a province that needs a venue with significant facilities.

stephen_n · 28-01-2023 2:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120169396#Comment_120169396

Donnybrook has 2 clubs using it though and the schools cups. Does Ravenhill have any clubs that use it?

RuPi · 29-01-2023 12:08am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120169527#Comment_120169527

The pitch looked in awful shape. No clubs use it and outside of Ulster Senior men’s and women’s fixtures I don’t think it has been used this season for any club fixtures before the All Ireland Junior Cup Final this season.

The combined Provinces side have fixtures there plus two schools cup semi finals and a final during March.

The new 4G surface is meant to be installed for the start of next season.

Quin_Dub · 30-01-2023 2:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120169396#Comment_120169396

The Old Donnybrook pitch was a nightmare towards the end of the season.

Games being played on it almost every day between Wesley/Bective Games , Schools games and every Junior club final being played there.

It was like playing in a sand-pit built on uneven concrete...

awec · 30-01-2023 3:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120168480#Comment_120168480

Doak looked fantastic when he came on the scene and was trending in the right direction for sure. But he's been terrible lots of times this season.

He won't get near an Ireland cap until he becomes consistent. Casey has blown past him now.

launish116 · 31-01-2023 3:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120177848#Comment_120177848

Sounds about right for most of Ulster's young guns, greta first season to teeter out! just look at O'Sullivan

bilston · 01-02-2023 10:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120182478#Comment_120182478

Hume looks to have rediscovered his mojo over the last couple of matches which is a major positive. Hopefully he keeps it up in the final third of the season.

Paul Smeenus · 17-02-2023 2:09pm

Have we officially just given up on the Ulster thread folks?

Ulster team to play Glasgow Warriors, BKT United Rugby Championship Round 14, Friday 17 February at Scotstoun Stadium (KO 7 35pm), live on ViaPlay and URC.tv.

(15-9): Ethan McIlroy, Ben Moxham, James Hume, Stewart Moore, Jacob Stockdale, Billy Burns, Nathan Doak.

(1-8): Eric O’Sullivan, Tom Stewart, Jeff Toomaga-Allen, Alan O’Connor (Captain), Kieran Treadwell, Harry Sheridan, Jordi Murphy, Nick Timoney.

Replacements: John Andrew, Rory Sutherland, Andy Warwick, Cormac Izuchukwu, Greg Jones, John Cooney, Luke Marshall, Craig Gilroy.

Lowry injured, Duane apparently already in n SA. Happy to see Sheridan start and Izzy on the bench. Shame not to see Marcus or McCann line out but these are an important three games and I presume there's a plan.

awec · 17-02-2023 2:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120252780#Comment_120252780

Tend to just tune out of URC games during the 6 nations.

Presumably Glasgow are missing a load of Scotland players?

Dubinusa · 17-02-2023 3:03pm

Delighted to see Sheridan again. He is doing well. Big match for Ulster.

17-02-2023 8:28pm

Any idea where I can watch this match?

Jump_In_Jack · 17-02-2023 8:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120254641#Comment_120254641

Premier Sports 1

Shehal · 17-02-2023 8:53pm

D!cks for fingers again tonight sadly...

Shehal · 17-02-2023 9:01pm

That's 3 good positions for a line out and 3 times its been totally botched. I dont know how they plan to win any game when the cant win their own set piece in decent positions & cant catch covid...never mind the ball.

Edit - Finally dont screw up a line out and after numerous phases they run into bodies on the try line and get held up...the Ulster carrier runs straight into a wall of Glasgow players, what did he think was going to happen?

Shehal · 17-02-2023 9:08pm

Finally Ulster get over! 5-5 conversion to come.

Shehal · 17-02-2023 9:54pm

Someone should tell the Ulster forwards that their job is to ruck...not just stand there and watch the opposition turn you over time and time again.

17-02-2023 9:54pm

Glasgow illegal in the counter maul there and ref FAR too long calling tackle before the turnover.

Shehal · 17-02-2023 9:55pm

Is it just me or was there no gap whatsoever in that line out Glasgow stole? How is that legal.

Shehal · 17-02-2023 10:02pm

Ulster really are their own worst enemy tonight, no set piece whatsoever and cant catch a ball for sh!t. How do you plan to win any game with these issues?

Shehal · 17-02-2023 10:04pm

And Glasgow finally punish Ulster and quite frankly Ulster can have no complaints, if you cant due the basics at set piece or protect you're own ruck you arent going to win many games.

Shehal · 17-02-2023 10:06pm

Broken record at this point but another line out that Ulster make an absolute balls of, granted on this occasion its the scrum halves mess up.

Shehal · 17-02-2023 10:11pm

And on top of all that Ulster are getting minced in the scrum, Ulster have no line out, no ruck and no scrum...how do they think they'll stand a chance against any team in this situation? Says more about Glasgow more than anything how Ulster are still in with a shout despite these factors, you'd almost take a LBP at this stage...

Shehal · 17-02-2023 10:15pm

Try for Glasgow, try number 3 and try number 3 from a driving maul, great when you have a set piece isn't it? If Glasgow get the conversion Ulster get nothing which is exactly what Ulster deserve.

EDIT - He gets it. 17-8.

17-02-2023 10:15pm

Reckon that's that.

Locke_Lamora · 17-02-2023 10:17pm

It says so much that we have nobody to play over Jordi Murphy and Greg Jones in these type of games. We were bullied tonight. Other players shouldn't get off lightly either - most were completely ineffective.

17-02-2023 10:20pm

Jesus that scrum. This is hard to watch.

Shehal · 17-02-2023 10:21pm

The last 2 minutes sums up the 2nd half. The line out is a complete crap shoot, get away with it thanks to a Glasgow error, the resulting scrum Ulster get completely shoved off their own ball. Eventually Glasgow kick it away and then within afew phases Ulster once again dont bother rucking and get turned over. A complete and utter shambles when it comes to the basics tonight, Ulster really deserve nothing here and it looks increasingly likely that this will be the case.

Shehal · 17-02-2023 10:22pm

Finally Ulster actually get a line out right and win a penalty to potentially steal an underserved LBP.

EDIT - He gets it. 17-11 and atleast Ulster leave with something.

Jump_In_Jack · 17-02-2023 10:28pm

How did Stockdale play?

Zeugnis · 17-02-2023 10:39pm

Germans have a word for my feelings tonight watching Ulster: Fremdschämen - feeling of shame for someone else who has done something embarrassing.

Dubinusa · 18-02-2023 3:54am

Disappointed by that result. There's something completely non kosher in Belfast. I can't see how this squad were thumped by Sale one week and give La Rochelle a run the next.

It's probably time to look to move on from MacFarland. He's obviously not up to getting this squad turned around. This level of inability to do the basic things is unacceptable. The mental toughness is missing, in spades.

It's not just this match, there's 3 or 4 this season where Ulster look they were at a speed dating event. Nobody is immune from being dropped, some lads should just be moved on.

bilston · 18-02-2023 11:49am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120255161#Comment_120255161

Was he playing?....

At this point I think the original Jacob Stockdale was kidnapped long ago and replaced with someone else.

Anyway my main takeaway from last night is whether it is possible to get those 80 minutes of my life back.

Harry Sheridan was decent enough and Tom Stewart plays with an intensity a level above everyone else in that team last night.

That's about it.

launish116 · 18-02-2023 2:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120256617#Comment_120256617

Says a lot when your two best players are also two of the youngest players on the pitch. Rated Sheridan at u20s, he's a lump of a lad for 21, would definitely keep with him and give him as much game time as possible over Rea Snr.

Same old story though no go forward. We have very little answers to fan out/set up defences.

awec · 20-02-2023 10:48am

Hopefully Leicester take McFarland off our hands.

Paul Smeenus · 20-02-2023 10:54am

Meanwhile, Marcus Rea, David McCann and Callum Reid are all playing for club sides.

awec · 20-02-2023 11:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120264131#Comment_120264131

And Izuchukwu is lost in the wilderness somewhere.

Paul Smeenus · 20-02-2023 11:50am

Was he not on the bench?

awec · 20-02-2023 12:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120264403#Comment_120264403

ha, he was. Didn't watch the match.

He's been in the wilderness for ages though. Another player McFarland fell out with. Fair enough he's trying to improve discipline but when you start exiling players for a while and results nosedive you're going to feel the heat for it.

Shehal · 20-02-2023 12:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120264261#Comment_120264261

Seem's to be a common issue at Ulster, how long until we are saying the same about the likes of Sheridan & Stewart, I personally with McFarland has taken Ulster as far as he can take them.

awec · 20-02-2023 12:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120264697#Comment_120264697

He has and I think his time is up. I think he knows this too, he applied for the Leicester job and is still on their shortlist.

launish116 · 20-02-2023 8:56pm

Is it McFarland or the coaching team? Would Payne come back?

awec · 22-02-2023 11:07am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120264714#Comment_120264714

McFarland didn't get the job then.

sydthebeat · 22-02-2023 11:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120274058#Comment_120274058

They got a much better coach than Mcfarland

awec · 22-02-2023 11:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120274127#Comment_120274127

Don't know much about the guy to be honest.

Still think McFarland will leave us at the end of the season. Getting battered by Leinster will make the lack of progress apparent and it'll be inevitable.

stephen_n · 22-02-2023 11:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120274139#Comment_120274139

Last time Ulster played Leinster in the knockouts. Everyone expected them to get battered. That’s certainly not the way it played out. Though Ulster seem to be in disarray at the moment.

sydthebeat · 22-02-2023 11:44am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120274139#Comment_120274139

he used to coach wicklow :P

awec · 22-02-2023 11:45am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120274151#Comment_120274151

Yea but I fear that Ulster that day was basically McFarland's Ulster at it's peak, and it's been downhill since.

Locke_Lamora · 22-02-2023 12:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120274251#Comment_120274251

Stockdale never recovered from that butchered try.

Shehal · 22-02-2023 1:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120274139#Comment_120274139

It's basically the same issue as at Munster up until last season, granted McFarland is definetly better that JVG, as in it feels like they'll be respectable more often that not but once they come up against a equal/better side in a big KO game they will always lose.

Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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