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Near Misses Thread Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    I thought of this and went back and looked at Ciarán’s incident, then looked at my video a few times. The difference here (I think; I am not a lawyer) is that Ciarán was filtering on the inside of a line of traffic, with no cycle lane. I was actually travelling in a clear bus/cycle lane. Whatever argument could be made in Ciarán’s case about the driver not expecting him to be coming up the inside, this driver drove straight into a different traffic lane without looking.

    I’m not suggesting either driver was in the right, but I just don’t see how this one could even make the argument that she had no expectation of oncoming traffic (and I don’t think she did, to be fair).

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I wonder out of curiosity (and not that it makes a difference to her actions) but did she just pull in front of you or did the driver travelling in your direction and facing her kinda wave her on.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    I don’t know and can’t tell from the video. I’ll have a listen back to the full aftermath audio later but I think it was both of us talking a bit of gibberish for the most part. Irrelevant anyway, as you say.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Just looking at the video again but I can't tell - did your helmet get damaged?

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I don't think an insurance company would consider opposing this claim, especially when it is clear that the drivers actions directly led to the outcome.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    It looks like the driver entered the lane without looking for or seeing the oncoming traffic. When they did see the oncoming traffic, they stopped their vehicle leaving it inevitable that the oncoming traffic had no option but to hit the anchors. Unfortunately when on a bike and having to brake suddenly, one can be thrown from the bike. There would be no doubt as to who is responsible for the incident.

    However, if there was a large sum of money at stake, I've no doubt that the insurance company would try and point to the cyclist as being partly liable for travelling too fast to stop, etc in the same way they'd use any lack of high-viz etc or non-helmet use as reasons to keep a payout amount down

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    @Seth Brundle Re: the helmet. No. I didn’t land on my head. My side took the impact.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    True, as is the other poster who replied. 500 quid will probably work out okay if it doesn't escalate. Hopefully the poster is recovering and gets sorted out soon

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,521 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    If you haven't been formally checked out by a medical professional and are not currently holding (a) receipt to prove assessment and (b) the diagnosis/assessment, then please get both as quickly as possible or a case will be much more difficult to pursue down the line.

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    How long is too long to report a near miss?

    Have video from two back in Sept but not yet reported, is this likely to cause an issue if I reported them now?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Driver coming against me had to pull out around some eejit who had stopped on the corner of a junction to pick someone up. However, he then didn't pull back in onto his own side of the road and continued to drive toward me until I gave a shout.

    It was then I realised I'm going to have to rein in the "**** hell"s while on the creche run.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,521 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I really don't get the driver's logic here. Could he not have waited 10 seconds and all would have been good?

    Seems like you met a driver with a chip on their shoulder about cyclists, and probably all other roads users. There's more of them out there then we may like to consider.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭Idleater


    Forgot to post this yesterday, but I saw a car almost get left hooked and then some pedestrians nearly taken out.

    Weird situation, obviously the done thing at this junction (https://maps.app.goo.gl/17vEabkZSoU3QDEB6 - I'm not familiar with the area), but the left/straight lane queues and there's a short right lane. A little bit before the lights there's a left turn. All pretty residential.

    A "steady stream" of vehicles overtake the queue to turn right (straddling the centre líne causing oncoming traffic to keep very left, but one hero cuts across the queue just as it has started to move, in that "make an orange/red light" kind of progress.

    The car in front did well to spot the clown and braked immediately, and the pedestrians crossing did well to run the last few steps to finish crossing!

    I was just about to cross but stood there gawking at the clown. Exchanged a :shrug: with the ashen faced driver.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    Both pure ignorant gits. Hope your shoulder is ok.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Was cycling back from football with the young lad this morning. He's 8 and I'm trying to build up his confidence on the road when it's usually quiet. Needed to make a right turn to head up to the house, so I've been talking him through these - giving him notice what we're going to do etc., and he's been great at it. Anyway, this morning, coming up to the turn, there was a driver gunning to pass (despite something coming the other way) so I thought feck it let him go, and he did, fair enough. Looked over the shoulder again (was on the right of the lane at this stage with the young lad inside me), and there was another car behind but hanging back as the oncoming car was just passing, so I signalled that I was going to go right. Thanks be to Jaysus I looked over the shoulder again, cause the bellend behind had gone regardless - regardless of road positioning, the fact a child was involved, signalling, the lot. He had some choice words thrown in his wake which thankfully the wind prevented small ears from making out

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Whatever about another cyclist, there could well have been a car moving along half in the cycle lane which wouldn't have had as much time to slow down.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Commuting both yesterday and this morning, it feels worse than before Christmas. On my way home yesterday, there were several pointless impatient passes such as this in Leixlip...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭accensi0n


    I've had that happen a few times, drives me bananas. I know it's a ridiculous thought but if it happens again I'm tempted to just bloody ram into them.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Not sure if it was the rain or what but there was a lot of impatience out there today. I encountered several drivers who overtook me this morning despite oncoming traffic and my arm out to indicate not to pass.

    I looked at disabling sound but can't do it on my new work laptop - excuse my French in this where the driver of 12-D-13107 thought he was on a bike (just like the driver in front of him)...

    Both he and his passenger immediately went on the offensive giving out to me, hence my verbal reaction.

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Keep the sound, it gives more context

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    ...and another driver wanting to use a cycle lane today while I'm already in it. This happened about 30 seconds after they passed me. Not really sure what they were doing. I don't think they had a passenger (I didn't have time to look) and they still turned to their right...

    Excuse the "WTF" shout

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Either deliberately cutting you off (people seem to do this quite a bit when stuck in traffic and they see cyclist coming up on inside) or suffering from "small car needing to swing out like a truck to turn" syndrome.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I should also point out that today's cycle lane encroachment was on Shackleton Road in Celbridge where a cyclist was seriously injured a few months ago. There was also plenty of kids on bikes heading to school.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Are you ok now? I'd report the incident to AGS anyhow.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    WTF, I heard of that assault and resulting permanent disability but not of the subsequent court case. Hard to see how she can loose the case with registration given by an independent witness and the scumbag then admitting to the offense. Judicial system is seriously messed up.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    ^^ Taxi drivers aren't professional drivers. They may drive as a profession but only have the same driving qualifications as a regular motorist - nothing more - no CPC, no driver training, no frequent training updates. Most, in my experience, have a diabolical attitude towards other road users.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Had to quickly head home at lunchtime and on my way back to the office, this bus driver gave me a punishment pass along the N4 at Lucan, presumably because they had no room to overtake and I inconvenienced them so much. The trucker behind him in lane 1 felt the need to alert me to their presence (I'm guessing that they were offering directions to the adjacent (poor quality) cycle path)...


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Problem here is the bus driver expects you to be on the footpath (cycle path), I'm guessing you weren't because like most its likely a **** design or if it was icy our when cycling the footpath of course wouldn't have been gritted.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭buffalo


    If you use the N4 cycle track, depending on the direction and the junction, every time you come to a slip road for an off-ramp, you have to stop, turn your head 180 degrees to check for fast-moving traffic from behind, wait for a gap, and then proceed. And likewise for the on-ramp slip road on the other side of the junction.

    Or worse, you have to proceed uphill up the slip road and wait at the traffic lights at the top to proceed straight through to go down the other side and rejoin.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    It is fine if you want to take your time but is really just a crappy footpath. However, with a somewhat uneven surface in places and plenty of gravel and other crap on it, it is unsuitable for any kind of speed. There are also pinch points where the overhead gantries are located. You also have to yield at every slip road. Then add in the occasional jogger or dog walker. All of this means that speed isn't really an option.

    In yesterday's vid, I was moving somewhere between 35 and 40km/h which wouldn't be suitable on the cycle path. I was also conscious that whilst there had been a bit of a thaw at that time and many sections of the cycle paths on my journey (Nangor Rd & Ballyowen Rd) still had frost on them.

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