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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I'm not surprised, 'considering' seems to be Pentagon speak for fat chance.


    Europe needs it's own no-strings-attached arms industry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I don't think it's just the fuel. It's also the weight of the tank and the logistic train is completely different than Soviet and leopard.

    However, it would be similar to the challenger tanks being different to the soviet/leopards also. But that didn't stop the UK announcing them being given to Ukraine.

    The US could easily announce they are sending a dozen Abrams (what ever version which would work best for Ukraine) but will require extensive training etc... Just drag it out but call Scholtz's bluff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Well they should start training any spare pilots Ukraine has, right now, so if they decide to, there won't be so much of a delay. Another way around this is it's well time for little blue men. Pilots retiring from foreign militaries and becoming instant yellow and blue citizens.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I'm not sure I agree ,about not going back ,

    Piped gas is cheaper than LNG

    And the German economy in particular NEEDS cheap gas for industrial use ..

    The LNG facilities aren't going away , they're a back up , and necessary , they'll be subsidised .

    But the moment they can Germany will be back buying cheap gas, it might have a "rebuild Ukraine tax " added to it , but only if it doesn't put the price too high ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Well they have the rockets in abundance and tested, the glide bombs in abundance and tested, but it's the mechanism that binds the 2 that turns the rocket and bomb into a GLSDB that seems to be slowing it down.

    I don't think they are in production as such.

    Still not a good excuse, if there's a dozen built, send the dozen. Ukraine will put them to good use and just keep sending them as they are assembled.

    Game changing weapons like that for Ukraine should be put on a war footing.

    They (the West) need to stop using time as an excuse. We can't send X because it will take 6 months training.... 6 months later, ok we'll send X, but now you need the training etc...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    More assassination plans or something else.

    Wouldn't it be funny if the CIA offered it's condolences on the death of dictator Putrid, rather than waiting for Orc musical chairs games to run their course?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    We've been hearing about Germany and tanks for months now. And that countries wish to send them. But the Germans keep saying they've no formal request - that's reported on Guardian site a day or so ago. Maybe they've changed overnight.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Even if the war head didn't go off , I'm sure the rocket fuel would go up in flames ,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,079 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Screenshot 2023-01-20 104031.png

    The situation in Bakhmut continues to slowly deteriorate. It's clear that the Russians are trying to out flank the village of Klischiivka and the fortified heights to the west of it. The AFU morning report indicates they repulsed an attack in Ivaniske for the first time, which suggests there is a danger the Russians might be able to cut off the defenders at the heights and force a retreat.

    It is interesting that Ukraine hasn't tried to launch a counter attack here in a long time. Almost like they had other priorities....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Did you intend to reply to another post? I was talking about battery powered drones, not tanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,620 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Wagner claim to have taken Klishchiivka itself, but no proof of that yet.

    From satellite images and drone footage it looks like all around Klischiivka is heavily fortified and entrenched. NW and NE of Klishchiivka still have very strong fortifications so even if the town itself was taken, there is still a strong defensive position between it and the highway.

    Although looking now at liveuamap, they map all of Klischiivka and most of land south of Ivaniske as Russian controlled. Wonder what the source for that is, havent seen any evidence yet. If true its a bad development, and Bakhmut is nearing encirclement.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,079 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    It's not been mentioned much, but the Russians have also launched an attack in the Zaporizhzhia region. They have taken one small village, Lobkove.

    Attack of the Russian Armed Forces on Zaporozhye through the eyes of crests. Almost without equipment and a crowd across the field (it’s not even visible that they abandoned the SD to remove minefields)

    Who gave such commands should be castrated.

    This Russian Z channel isn't happy though. It looks like the Russians are advancing through open fields on foot (presumably because the area is heavily mined).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,079 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭jmreire


    At this stage, they're like the Chair-O-Planes in the carnival, swinging faster and faster, higher and higher, but no one knows how to stop the machine...... but at some point, they will start to fly off the machine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,079 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    It wasn't an endorsement and I was drawing attention to one particular post, nothing else on that channel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,620 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Yes its worrying.

    Strange thing though is what that mappers' updates are based on. I was under the impression they (like most) updates maps primarily based on geolocated footage. Cant find any proof anywhere of those big gains south west of bakhmut, other than very large extrapolations from a Ukraine MoD statement.

    Even the pro russians arent claiming gains to this extent bar taking klischiivka itself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I think dufflecoat was thinking more about the actual weight of the weapon itself, and how the building would support it. And then of course what kind of stresses and strains would it put on the building if it was fired? Not to mention the effect on the building if it was hit...Or could it and the others being placed on Moscow buildings be fakes? The blow-up kinds??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That rooftop air defence system in Moscow is near Putrid's residence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Lloyd Austin, the US Defence Secretary said on Friday at Ukraine Defence Contact Group in Germany that Russia was running out of ammunition, and it has suffered significant combat losses.

    Austin's speech was quoted by CNN, reports European Pravda

    "The people of Ukraine have inspired the world while Russia is running out of ammunition. It has suffered significant combat losses," Austin said.

    The head of the Pentagon noted that Moscow is now turning to its few remaining partners to restock its tragic and unnecessary invasion, "but even Iran and North Korea won’t admit that they are supplying Russia.."

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/01/20/7385756/

    Hope that is true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Nice - In response to The Netherlands considering supplying F-16s if Zelensky asked for them - Zelensky asked for them. He's no time waster. Great speech.

    "I could express my gratitude to you hundreds of times, and it would be absolutely fair and honest, given everything we have already done. However, hundreds of thanks are not hundreds of tanks. Each of us might say thousands of words, but I cannot replace these words with either the guns that are required against Russian artillery or the anti-aircraft missiles that are needed to protect people from Russian air strikes," Zelenskyy said.Details: According to Zelenskyy, time is still Russia's weapon.

    "We have to hurry. Time must become our common weapon," the president emphasised.

    Zelenskyy concluded his speech at the conference by calling for the next Ramstein meeting to provide longer-range missiles and F-16 fighter jets.




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Those in Mariopol were never confirmed. It was one Ukrainian report that got a lot of traction for a while. A French and a German news station tried to back up the reports, but found nothing. The picture that was circulated at the time wasn't in Ukraine and iirc was from a few years ago. So I'd wait until more sources on this new story.

    Now it wouldn't surprise me one little bit if it were true in the sense of how Russian leaders consider their cannon fodder. That said on the other hand cremation is verboten, or very dubious for Orthodox Christians and could cause more unrest at home, particularly among putin's voter base of older Russians.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes they are logical in protecting their own personal interests, even if that means destroying the state in order to do so. But sooner or later, that means collapsing into a Korean like state. More restrictive laws are coming into force every day now, throttling each and every kind of personal freedom, even worse than in Stalins day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,383 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Imagine being in the army and having to listen to this shyster. No way would those men respect that media clown :




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Ah my bad, stupid draft messages on boards 🤬



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes these are war deaths you speak about, but there are many more deaths that could be war related as money used in the health services is diverted to the war, and hospitals suffer as a result,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,620 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    what happens when a missile hits one of these?

    *boing*



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