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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    This tank thing isn't the only A grade BS the US spouts.

    The US claims it won't provide Ukraine with drones, like Reapers, Predators and Gray Eagles, because it's worried about their precious tech secrets falling into Russian hands

    Absolute 100% bulls​​hit.

    A US-made MQ-9 Reaper UAV came down over Libya, just outside the city of Benghazi, on August 23, 2022.

    ...

    Last June, the U.S. confirmed that a Reaper had been shot down over Yemen by Houthi rebels with an SA-6 surface-to-air missile.

    ...

    Reported Loss Of Two U.S. MQ-9 Reapers In Syria Raises Troubling Questions

    The Gray Eagle is amongst the oldest and least capable of the drones the US has. It's the drone version of VW beatle VS the Covettes and Mustangs, and yet it's tech is too precious to risk on the battlefield? Er, what?

    Gray Eagle:

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    It's not a secret, but the US has drones that are very big secrets, particularly their advanced stealth drones, like the RQ-170 Sentinel and RQ-180 and...?

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    Which do you think contains more sensitive secrets? The one they spent years hiding from the world that can fly at 50,000' or the 29,000' beatle?

    Well in 2011, Iran spoofed the GPS coordinates being fed to an RQ-170, and got it to land at one of their airbases because it thought it was landing back at it's real base in Afghanistan. Whoops.

    One of the main intelligence gathering assets the US has been using to monitor the situation in Ukraine is the $180 million, 60,000' RQ-4 Global Hawk, one of the most non-secret drones they have. An F-35 costs $78 million. It would be safe to say there is some secret stuff in one of these. Well the Iranians shot one down and recovered a lot of it: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-china-stole-top-secret-information-f-22-and-f-35-94201

    So worrying about losing sensitive secrets when you have already lost far bigger one's to Iran, Russia, China - and I wouldn't be surprised if North Korea also, is a nonsense.

    And it gets worse. The Chinese are known to have hacked US defence contractors and stole all the plans and data on the F-22 and F-35.

    In some ways, the damage is already done. Beijing has gained reams of technical information on advanced U.S. weapons system such as the F-22 and F-35. “Adversaries will continue to use cyber operations to undermine U.S. military and commercial advantage by hacking into U.S. defense industry and commercial enterprises in pursuit of scientific, technical, and business information,” Coats stated. “Examples include theft of data on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the F-22 Raptor fighter jet, and the MV-22 Osprey

    So we can't afford to send a VW beatle to Ukraine because we have all these incredible secrets to keep - the mind boggles at the scale of that nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    They supplied some secret naval drones with no details as to what they are or can do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Woomera test range in South Australia - the size of Louisiana - 127,000 square kilometres - the largest in the world. All sorts of secret stuff going on there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    HIMARS have gone very quiet lately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    They certainly have form for that:

    The Hawkeis are in testing mode and can often be seen on the streets of Bendigo, but Mr Myroshnychenko says he would like to see how they perform in the field.

    "I believe it will really test them in Ukraine, provide valuable feedback and just make them better so that they can serve the Australian Defence Forces much more efficiently," Mr Myroshnychenko said.

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    Myroshnychenko is Ukrainian ambassador to Australia.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Kurdish forces using Americans/western Anti tank weapons,it's a regular occurance.

    But no Challenger tanks or Abrams were lost to other tanks, especially not Soviet/Russian tanks.

    While they have chalked up a fair number of tanks destroyed mainly Russian/Soviet design's



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭ElitesTeam


    Ukraine president is now a conspiracy nut. Just what they needed to lead them.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Really,and you know President Putin better than anyone and have done peace talks allready?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Well when you compare the photos and videos of the last few years, they have definitely involved different people, including where else have you seen a world leader using green screen to create an audience



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,620 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    If Putin is dead, the war is still going, so I guess there goes any hope of regime change



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

    Something drastic has to happen to change Scholtz's position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,435 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    It's just goading putin to come out of hiding away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭zv2


    (Not)Putin-

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    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭jmreire


    What's wrong with them being tested in Ukraine? If they over shoot, all the better. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    It's an off the cuff comment, Putin is known to have doubles, his appearances and photos can be heavily choreographed, it's just another dig at him

    Not that you are really "concerned" about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    I really hope the US sends those GLSDB bombs, up to 150km range I believe, around 40k each (so much cheaper than the alternatives) and can be launched from HIMARS. Would really stretch the Russian supply lines (they have their big ammo dumps just outside current HMARS range)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Mullah Omar, founder of the Taliban was dead for 2 years before the world ( including Afghanistan / Pakistan ) found out about it, so why not Putin suffering the same fate? The oligarchs want to keep the same show on the road....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,620 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    How did he die?

    Did he fall down the stairs and sh*t himself as they said in the news not too long ago?

    Or was it the bone cancer? Or Parkinsons?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    He's dead to me anyway. He hasn't called me in over a year. And we used to be best buddies.





  • Who knows!? It's not like if he were dead the Russians would tell anyone anyway. Sure they even covered up Chernobyl until it was impossible to cover it up anymore. It was setting off alarms in power plants all over Europe.

    There were rumours they used to put Boris Yeltsin on a dialysis machine in the plane to try and sober him up too.

    If Putin were dead, they'd likely cover it up for weeks until they had some kind of plan in place.

    Hence the conspiracy theories fly every so often and are quite believable because the realities in Russia often make conspiracies seem quite dull.

    He's certainly dead behind the eyes anyway. Very creepy looking, whatever he is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,555 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Hopefully he's trying to goad him out of the bunker because Yakiv Bondski is in position in Moscow ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Yeah I'm pretty sure they're going to. To my mind the GLSDB's are the real gamechangers that nobody seems to be talking about. The media is so focused on ATACMS. But honestly the real reason that ATACMS haven't been delivered in my mind comes down to 2 factors:

    1. They're ridiculously expensive. At over a million dollars a shot you'd want to be absolutely sure that whatever you're hitting is worth at least that much otherwise they simply aren't worth it. Added to this(and i'm not sure on this point, maybe someone who knows more about arms can correct me, maybe ATACMS are too fast to be shot?) but whether or not a missile can be intercepted is also partially a function of how far they fly. A missile that flies 300km is much easier to track and shoot down than one that flies 80km. And you definitely don't want a 1.1 mil rocket being shot down. Whereas a 40k rocket being shot down is not a significant loss especially considering an s300 or s400 rocket is worth multiples of that. It's the same problem the Ukrainians had/have with the Shaheed drones. They're so cheap it's an economic loss to even shoot at them with anything more than bullets.
    2. The ATACMS warhead is significantly heavier than the GLSDB but its a level of firepower that is complete overkill for targeting a warehouse already filled with explosives. Maybe if they were for blowing holes in the kersch bridge the ATACMS would be the choice but that's all I can think of.

    I might be an armchair general but if I had to choose between 1 ATACMS and 25 GLSDBs i know which i'd be choosing every day of the week. SAAB apparently have thousands of these things lying around waiting for a buyer. It will be a very grim day indeed for russian logistics if the Ukrainians get their hands on these.





  • I wonder who they're defending against though - could easily see this ending up with a military coup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    He's trolling the Russians about Putin hiding away, and about their decision making and who is really calling the shots. Here's the full video of that section of his speech. Scroll to 1 minute in.


    Here's the transcript for the full context:

    "I don't quite understand who to talk to and about what. I'm not sure that the Russian president who sometimes appears against a green-screen chromakey is actually the one. I don't quite understand if he is alive or whether he makes decisions, or whoever else makes decisions there. What group of people? I don’t have that kind of information.

    I don't quite understand how you can promise European leaders one thing, and the next day launch a full-scale invasion of a country. I just don't quite understand with whom we are dealing. When we say "peace talks", I don't quite understand with whom."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's a quip, come on, you are better than this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Sweden has announced that as aswell as sending a number of Archer mobile artillery systems, fantastic pieces of kit they will also be sending 50+ CV90 IFVs probably one of the best off the shelf infantry vehicles anywhere (been hoping they would be sent since week one ), along with more anti tank weapons .


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    CV90



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