Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

Clegg · 19-01-2023 10:03AM

Delighted for Jamie Osborne. He's been in great form this season and deserves inclusion. It's a big blow that Henshaw is out however.

Earls and Stockdale being in is a big surprise to me. Neither have the form.

awec · 19-01-2023 10:03AM

No Carbery is bizarre.

phog · 19-01-2023 10:04AM

No Joey Carbery 😲

aloooof · 19-01-2023 10:04AM

That's earlier than I had anticipated.

No Joey, presumably injured (which leaves the door open for Crowley to start vs Toulouse this weekend).

Coombes back in, well deserved. Earls maybe on the lucky side to still be there.

19-01-2023 10:05AM

Hype filled Grand Slam followed by meek quarter final exit. It's the only way

awec · 19-01-2023 10:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127857#Comment_120127857

Pretty sure Carbery was pictured in training as recently as yesterday.

19-01-2023 10:06AM

Wow just noticed Carbery not there. I refuse to believe that's not due to injury until confirmed otherwise, would be properly mental otherwise.

Good squad overall. Do we really not have improvements over Earls and Stockdale at the moment in the back 3?

Clegg · 19-01-2023 10:07AM

Delighted for Joe McCarthy and Jordan Larmour as well. The former is the biggest prospect in Leinster/Irish rugby right now alongside Osborne.

Just happy for Larmour that he's hit a good run of form so quickly after injury. He was injured for a lot of last season, came back, played well and was selected for the NZ tour only to get injured again in the first game.

sydthebeat · 19-01-2023 10:07AM

Ross Byrne possibly jumped to second choice Irish out half

19-01-2023 10:07AM

No Henshaw. Keith Earls will hopefully get to 100. Ross Byrne and Crowley in. Stockdale in. No Joey Carbery. Is he injured?

sydthebeat · 19-01-2023 10:09AM

Possibly Munster have said that they cannot afford to lose three out halves, so IRFU make a choice.

IRFU chose Crowley??

aloooof · 19-01-2023 10:09AM

No Timoney or Treadwell either.

Burkie1203 · 19-01-2023 10:10AM

Don't get Earls inclusion at all

19-01-2023 10:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127875#Comment_120127875

Surely it doesn't work that way? I would have thought the IRFU can take as many players as they want. Call up from the AIL if they're stuck

Clegg · 19-01-2023 10:11AM

Is Treadwell injured? He has been a selected pretty consistently by Farrell for a while now so I'm a bit surprised he isn't included.

Former Former Former · 19-01-2023 10:12AM

Treadwell unlucky to miss out

Former Former Former · 19-01-2023 10:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127875#Comment_120127875

Absolutely not

sydthebeat · 19-01-2023 10:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127893#Comment_120127893

Explain carbery omission then?

sydthebeat · 19-01-2023 10:15AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127885#Comment_120127885

It worked that way for the emerging Ireland tour

phily2002 · 19-01-2023 10:15AM

Joey has been out of form for a long time. I'm just surprised Farrell would drop him. Harsh call but probably the right one. Murray and Earls very lucky. Coombes making it is the right decision, good to see Farrell reward his form.

Cookiemunster · 19-01-2023 10:15AM

Carbery wasn't listed as injured in this weeks Munster squad update, so it has to be a selection choice.

aloooof · 19-01-2023 10:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127902#Comment_120127902

Which was outside an international window. This isn't.

The more likely explanation is that 1) Carbery's injured or maybe 2) Farrell's favoured RB and Crowley. Which would be a big change to previous selection, but not unthinkable.

Occam's razor.

Clegg · 19-01-2023 10:17AM

Nick Timoney isn't in the squad either. There's no cover for openside at all in the event VDF picks up an injury. It's not an issue selecting a replacement in that event, but I would have thought we'd have brought another 7.

19-01-2023 10:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127847#Comment_120127847

Has to be injured.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127870#Comment_120127870

Have heard numerous times that Earls is very good to have around camp, not sure I see him making the 23 but might make the bench. Delighted for Stockdale after the negative headlines during the week and good to see Coombes's form rewarded.

Anyone know when Loughman is due back - he's a loss.

19-01-2023 10:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127898#Comment_120127898

There's 2 possible explanations:

He's injured
The Irish coaches don't think, at this moment in time, he's one of the top 3 OHs in the country

That's it really.

aloooof · 19-01-2023 10:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127912#Comment_120127912

It'd be POM; played at 7 before for us, and is entirely possible he'd be seledcted there ahead of Timoney anyways, even if he was in the squad.

19-01-2023 10:18AM

I know endless ROG v Sexton debates are frowned upon on here. But the mods haven't said sh!t about endless Byrne v Crowley debates...

lawrencesummers · 19-01-2023 10:21AM

Presumably earls is included for experience because its not on form.

Stockdale hasnt shown his form of old in any game either, but its not as if he has played in a game Ulster have done well in that he could shine either.

Delighted for prendergast and Coombes, hopefully they see game time at some stage.

Im not really surprised about Carbery, he has played a good few games and hasnt been anything above ordinary also because byrne can do everything he does. The only problem is that he can cover FB as a bench option better than Byrne.

19-01-2023 10:22AM

All the talk of Carbery aside, genuinely delighted for Ross Byrne. Imo he absolutely deserves this call-up, he's been excellent this season. He's come from a place where the Irish coaches just had no interest in him at all (picking H.Byrne who had barely played or done anything, Frawley who'd spent a season playing 12, Crowley who again looked promising but hadn't really done anything) ahead of him and he's forced his way back in.

If Carbery is actually fit, I just can't understand it. He's been in far, far worse form at various points in his career and still was always picked. He's been playing fine recently I thought.

19-01-2023 10:23AM

This is a weird selection to me.

I’d honestly say Carbery has been playing better recently than ever. I would have understood dropping him several times over the years but now is hard to understand.

Earls and Stockdale are not in form at all. Like at all.

Kilcoyne was not playing better than loughman when both fit. Its my understanding that loughman is back soon.

The only two rewards for form are Byrne and Osborne, and honestly I have no idea what people are seeing that’s different about Byrne. He’s always been good but apparently not the type of good they liked. But now he is?

Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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