Clothing 101- recommendations

You can get thin merino glove liners which go under gloves. I've used them with thicker gloves on the absolute coldest days. Not sure how much they will help in keeping you dry though

I just use cheap Amazon/ Chinese gloves as "running" gloves, where they'll fit under my main glove.

I will caveat that I tend to do a fair bit of gravelling (where the extra protection is welcome), but rare enough this winter that I've got out on both dry roads and no rain for an entire spin even on the road bike. Must have another look at the Energie Bib Tights though.

Last time I looked, proces were very expensive, but I'll give them a thought next time around.

Someone around here had recommended them, and I liked their designs, but the price put me off at that time.

Just a follow up on those Galibier Barrier Deep Winter Gloves I've used them three times now since getting them last week. There a bit bulky especially coming from thinner gloves. My fingers get a bit sore in them but I seem to have this problem in any glove that are not like a second skin.

This morning I had both the gloves and merino glove liners on because obviously very cold out. The cold kept coming and going but by the end my thumbs where pretty much numb. I had to keep moving my fingers and hands when I slowed down just to keep blood flow. There decent gloves and very well made but if you are prone to cold hands nothing really seems to change that on a bike because if you go too thick you can barely grip the bars.

I read your post about the Galibier ones above https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119962849/#Comment_119962849 but when I went to get them theres only size S and XS left, so I presume it will be later this year before I can actually get them.

I use the leather mitts, and by jeepers, the difference it makes in regard to not getting numbness is night and day.

I couldn't believe it. And the value of the Galibier ones is unbelievable. I use them as regular gloves if commuting off the bike too. Hope they're back in stock soon for you.

The double bar tape is a good call. I've done that on my winter bike (not sure if I'm bothered upgrading to carbon on that one). Primarily for comfort/ to dampen vibration, but makes sense on the hand temp. too.

Cold hands isn't just a heat loss issue, if you've poor circulation. I've double wrapped bars, wear liner gloves under deep winter gloves and I've still cold hands on the bike until I've warmed up. Core temp has more of an influence for me than what is and isn't on my hands - quite often they'll get cold if I've been inactive at the desk or sofa for a while.

I've been weighing up heated gloves, but can't get ones rechargeable that'll deliver here on Amazon. And then the "branded" ones you can get, they're very expensive. I'm reluctant only that it is a short term issue for me on the bike, rather than the entire spin. However, they would be good for beside the football pitch too!

I think Ekoi have a pair on sale at the moment... still around €100 though! EKOI HEAT CONCEPT 5 Winter Heating Gloves - EKOI

I'm the same, my hands will be frozen until I start climbing and get out of the saddle... core temp rises and hands are ok. Same issue then gives rise to problems with 'Deep Winter' gloves... they're great at the start of a spin, but as soon as core temp rises my hands start sweating and feel suffocated. Trying to get gloves off is a pain in the hole... hands cool down again... then you're putting hands back into damp gloves. It's why I find the fleece lined leather gloves super... they seem to be excellent at heat retention, are completely windproof, very good in rain, and have really good breathability for that type of glove.

A year ago I would have said yes but not any more. I have a pair of their T-tiburu bib shorts that are really comfortable but a hole developed in the outer fabric under one of my sit bones. Admittedly they were a few years old but I reserved them for the odd long sportif or multi day events and rarely wore them on regular club spins. When I raised the issue with Assos they said they were out of warranty and the saddle probably had a raised patern or logo at that spot. I pointed out that it didn't and that none of my much cheaper shorts or tights had worn through. Eventually they offered me 10% off the list price of a new pair. I think you can imagine what I told them to do with their 10%.