Russia - threadbanned users in OP

FFS!!

Where is all this German efficiency that they have built their reputation on!

Get your finger out Germany!!

Sniper rifles, vehicles, ammunition, ATG-4s, a few Javelins, off the top of my head. **** neutrality, it's for moral degenerates and cowards. Wibbs accuses me of being emotive - damn right, along with all those peole whose quotes I posted. I'll wear that accusation with pride.

I believe she had gangrene. She wasn't just injured in a blast - she was shot in the arm by someone looking down the sights of a weapon at a child who pulled the trigger to try and kill her. It wasn't an accident or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time, she was targeted with deliberation.

She has since travelled to the US where she has received a hi-tech prosethitic arm from a country that isn't neutral.

Time to jettison these fcuks from the EU. A warning to any other members that if you cosy up to regimes that are contrary to our beliefs and standards that you'll be out on your ear. Orban would be hanging off a lamppost by tea time.

But they're not accompanied by Russian investigators so it's all a big western conspiracy.

German efficiency is a self propagated myth. A story they developed in order to sell more goods. I deal with loads of German companies and they are no more efficient than any country and often a good deal worse. They also believe their own infallibility which is worse.

We have a government that just posted a €12 billion surplus for novemeber, we could buy ammunition and weapons and deliver them. Mark Hamill is trying to raise money for drones for Ukraine, after he's already bought over 50 himself.

A tiny fraction of €12 billion would buy all the drones Ukraine needs. These are non lethal items that are not weapons, so some some could salve their gangrene infested consciences with that thought.

This 'oh we don't have any weapons BS' is just that. Money can be turned into weapons very readily.

Ireland could close the Russian embassy, which is one of the largest Russian espionage centres in Europe and is known to have even run espionage ops in the US. Hosting that fuc​king thing is not being neutral, it's helping the Orcs - a lot!

You know what I think? That hack of the HSE was done by the Russian government and they have all the health records of the population of this country and are using the release of that info as blackmail to stop the Irish government lifting a finger they don't like. The Irish government is dealing with terrorists and giving into blackmailers. But boy does the Irish government have form for moral cowardice and giving succour to perpetrators of evil - burying the catholic church's abuses and hiding them under a smokescreen of legislation that didn't even include any financial penalties, the Irish tax payer was put on the hook for paying for those sins.

We'll happily pay for the CC's sins and sexual deviance, but not weapons for Ukraine to help them face up to evil. What a bunch of mealy mouthed sickos.

Nothing to do with neutrality.

Ireland hosts companies like Intel, HP, Qualcom and more. They all manufacture chipsets / CPU's. These are manufactured for multiple countries around the world.

Anyone can simply hop on a website or Amazon etc and order chips, ship them to a European country and then have them smuggled to Russia.

What happens to them afterwards is the question.

All of these companies have regulations in place to ensure that during the sales cycle "that they have control of" that they do not sell to certain sanctioned countries.

This story is behind a paywall. But nevertheless it's a non-story.

Considering what has been done so far by the Russians in terms of genocide, i would 100% favour the likes of Nestle ceasing All operations in Russia.

Ukraine had a population of 37 million, over 7 million of whom have fled as refugees. There is a massive amount of bitching in Ireland over the intake of refugees, and you know it. If everyone was neutral, Ukraine could thoretically empty - if they were allowed to leave - so proprtionally, Ireland could have over 5 times as many refugees as it currently is complaining about.

That is not realistic or sustanable. It's not an outcome anyone should view positively, but it's what scaled up neutrality would deliver.

Being neutral is to take the side of the agressor - there is no positivity to it.

The different fighting groups do have radio communication, with communication being a huge part of the over all war machine Ukraine have in action there, I think its pretty safe to say that most soldiers \ groups would have a pretty accurate idea of what state the other groups were in, theyre not all acting as single entites, just doing their own thing and hoping it all works out.

I have an Irish passport. I'm working on leaving.

If the tanks aren't in a working condition until a major overhaul, they can't be sent to Ukraine any time soon. Takes a long time to fix them, and it's very expensive.

Unfortunately seems to be in error. Various sources scrubbing the story with the British MOD stating the information was incorrect. Pity.

Maybe the fact it was reported is an indication someone raised the idea of it behind a closed meeting.

As Wibbs said, Ireland are certainly not neutral in this war (so quotes on the dark side of neutrality do not fully apply to us here). Russia definitely has our card marked as a hostile state.

There's not very much military aid Ireland can give (guns, ammunition, anti-tank rpg-like weapons seem to be what is mentioned), but it is quite a rich country and that is mainly how we can help, apart from the sheltering of refugees.

However I would agree with you scaled up, the Irish policy would be an utter disaster for Ukraine (and people here would be castigating larger European countries over it - they already do it on thread as is anyway and say hysterical nonsense like they are "allied with Putin" etc because they are not giving enough or powerful enough weapons!). IMO the refusal to allow Irish euros (e.g. via the EU) to be dirtied up somehow by paying for some weapons for Ukraine is just a cop out/a moral failing.

However would judge that is position most of the Irish public are happy with (e.g. even see way you have been attacked quite a bit now for raising this point), and we are a democracy. The govt. really has (as far as I can see?) no strong mandate to change policy and start buying weapons for Ukraine or sending any of our own stock.