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Do you believe the Vaccines are safe and effective?

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So the authorities are paying attention to the safety signals and following the process to establish if there is a link or if this is just data noise.

This is excerpted for reference:

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said on Friday that a CDC vaccine database had uncovered a possible safety issue in which people 65 and older were more likely to have an ischemic stroke 21 days after receiving the Pfizer/BioNTech bivalent shot, compared with days 22-44...

The FDA and CDC said that other large studies, the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, other countries' databases and Pfizer-BioNTech's databases had not flagged this safety issue, adding that it requires more investigation."

Although the totality of the data currently suggests that it is very unlikely that the signal in VSD (Vaccine Safety Datalink) represents a true clinical risk, we believe it is important to share this information with the public," the health authorities said.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-says-pfizers-bivalent-covid-shot-may-be-linked-stroke-older-adults-2023-01-13/

It's the age group that's possibly impacted.

It's unlikely to be anything, but they still have to a) check it and b) report it. Unfortunately whenever they report stuff like this, anti-vaccine groups seize on it and use it to promote fear or doubt about vaccines.

The Covid vaccines are safe and effective. They were very effective against the strains they were developed for, and still relatively effective against later mutations.

I don't know what you expect from medical science? This isn't Yellow fever or Smallpox that can be defeated with one shot. It's a different virus.

At least give the grifters the credit for what you copy and paste directly from Twitter.

We had a pandemic, the world managed to create vaccines (within a relatively short period of time), which was part of the aim, these vaccines were safe and effective.

There were no "promises" of anything. We tackle these things as best we can with the technology we have at the time. The virus could mutate into a much more dangerous strain tomorrow, we don't know. We aren't in control of everything. There's no "they", there's no conspiracy.

There were no issues that in any way merited stopping the release of the vaccines.

You have entirely failed to provide any evidence supporting your statement either specific to covid vaccines or eg wrt other medications and vaccines such as flu vaccine or aspirin.

Your claims of political interference are likewise without merit or foundation.

Just scurrilous inneundo without evidence which seems to be your standard operating practice... exercises in misinformation.

Maybe because they were infected recently due to the rise in cases. It would be the more logical conclusion rather than thinking there is some big conspiracy that can’t be defined.

To address the real issue here. It's very unlikely you are wondering why. It's increasingly obvious from your posts here that you have developed a belief that these vaccines are "bad" or "ineffective" or "unsafe". As a result of this belief you are filtering information, i.e. cherry-picking only stories that you perceive throw any negative light on these vaccines in order to project that belief. Objectivity is out the window, it becomes a terminal exercise in lapping up and repeating anything "bad" about vaccines.

It's the equivalent of someone disliking a football team, only posting negative stories about them, then turning around and validating it to themselves by claiming to be "just concerned" about the team.

Anyway back to the point, we have seasonal flu boosters the same way we have Covid boosters. It's a relatively small gain in protection for most. Some people take them, some don't. I haven't bothered with mine as I've had Covid within the last few months.