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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Bitcoin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Things must be pretty desperate if the regime is having to invent military "successes" for the benefit of the serfs and the Putin bots. Not a good sign for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,017 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I'd say that Ukraine would wait and see if Belarus soldiers cross into Ukraine first...or would they turn on the Russian's / Lukashenko ? Prematurely attacking military targets inside Belarus might have the opposite effect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,017 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And how many Belarussians will join them on the trip....????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    I've often wondered about the authenticity of the intercepted phone calls

    Me too. I listened to some of it, of course I don't understand Russian.

    I thought two things about it though - first, the voice sounds like an AI voice, and second if it is genuine, where is the wife's voice? It's just a monologue, and nobody talks like that on the phone to a loved one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    From above and yesterday where Russia claimed it had targeted a building and killed 600 Ukrainian soldiers,

    Now compare to Ukrainan strikes using precision strikes from HiMars




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Even Russian commenters on their social media are sceptical about the Ministry of Defence claims about Kramatorsk and suspect the whole thing has been made up. Interesting to see awareness that they are being fed BS by the regime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Makes you wonder how much longer they think can pull this off ,

    They have wiped out the Ukrainan airforce multiple times over, captured and destroyed all the HiMars systems multiple times over, destroyed every piece of Ukrainan and western artillery multiple times over,

    And even Bakhmut holds .

    But the Russians are winning this three day adventure



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Just need them to comment and be sceptical on the Nazis and biolabs in Ukraine. The genetically modified mosquito's, NATO troops in Ukraine, Ukraine planning an attack on Russia, Ukraine developing nukes, Poland looking to invade Ukraine, satanists in Ukraine..... My apologies for any other tripe I'm missing out.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've read, maybe here I can't remember, that while russian men and vehicles are in Belarus, ammunition is going the other way, final destination Donbas. I don't see a credible attack from Belarus. They are making us of training facilities and perceived menacing of Ukraines Northern border areas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Earlier on in the year Belarus sent Few hundred thousand rounds of artillery and tank shell's to Russia,but now we're seeing a large increase of Russians soldiers and equipment flowing into Belarus,they share a 1,200 km border, they could easily use indirect fire across the length of the border along with airstrikes and various artillery, without having to cross the border,and still inflict a lot of damage,this won't be long over stretched convoys with no real plan



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ukr has said previously they won't wait for forces to cross the border "the next time".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,064 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    photo_2023-01-08 22.34.40.jpeg

     Another successful exchange of prisoners took place. Fifty of our soldiers returned home.

    They are guys from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, TRO, NSU, SPSU, Naval Forces and SDF. 33 officers and 17 privates and NCOs," OP head Andriy Yermak said.

    The more of these, the better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    There was no Soviet glory, it was decades of mass murder on a scale the world had never seen, only topped by Mao's China.


    Russia today is not capable of going back to the savagery of the Communist system, Putin would like that level of control but no chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,357 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Everyone knows their history of WW2 and the Nazis use of concentration camps.

    Well the Russians have their version. They're called "filtration" camps.

    Started in the Chechan wars. Continued in the Ukraine war since Russia first invaded in 2014.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,512 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    To be fair, the Russians had concentration camps of their own long before WW2. Its a system with which their corporate memory is very familar.

    From 1934-53, the generally accepted death toll in correctional labour camps (Gulag was actually the agency that ran them, not the camps themselves) was 2.9 million.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    People nearly forget that the Soviet Union was more repressive and brutal towards its own people than even Nazi Germany, certainly pre-1939. The Nazis were extreme, but the Soviets were even more extreme and murderous towards ordinary citizens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,357 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Another plaything for Putin's wagner group with sledgehammers.

    A member of Putin's own presidential guard no less.

    Edit: Who knows the thought processes though. As far as Kazakhstan could have been concerned he was a planted spy by Putin on Russian immigrants and Kazakh affairs. 🤷‍♂️

    Post edited by Say my name on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    That type of camp goes back much further, the real development of them starting under Trotsky's time as Commissar for military affairs.


    Look at the Tambov rebellion against the Bolsheviks in 1920, as the confiscation of food and grain left communities on the edge of starvation. It was met with the Red Army swamping the place with soldiers, chemical weapons and 100k villagers being shipped to camps, where the death rate was estimated at 20% per month. 250k died in the fighting and massacres.


    Who outside of those deeply fascinated by the period know of the Tambov rebellion, 300 to 350k dead in a few months and its a historical side piece because in the deeds of Soviet Russia that level of killing doesn't stand out, that's from the period where Socialists say that Stalin hadn't yet corrupted the revolution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Fascists hate Jews but Communists hate everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    I saw a tweet earlier with a screenshot translated to english, they all laugh at this, claim of 600 dead, 600 HIMARS destroyed and 600 zelenskyys killed

    Edit: here it is

    20230109_012048.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    This Ukraine war is the most stupid idiotic thing done in recent years ... along with long lockdowns for Covid ... it makes lockdowns look sensible in comparison indeed someone needed to lock down or lock up the pandemic of stupid idiots in Russia posing as a 'government' this time last year ... when some clown made that decision in Russia this time last year to escalate this war why the hell didn't someone shut him up and put him back in his box? Lack of intelligence is contagious in the Duma .... not one of them could call time on this lunacy ... they have by remaining silent on opposition to this stupidity signed their death warrant and flushed their country down the drain for the next 100 years ... There is only one way this stupid thing is going ... Wagner group global terrorist entity ... Ukraine will be a basket case ... Russia will collapse economically and revolution and civil war will follow ... this Wagner group of far right gun toting ultra nationalist terrorists will become the new ISIS ... and will climb to total power in Russia just like the Taliban in Afghanistan ... only Russia is not I repeat not Afghanistan ... it is a nuclear power ...

    Then all those Russian politicians will appear on CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, etc. crying why the hell didn't they shout down the idiotic dunce who suggested this war ... his name will be mentioned ... my guess is that creep Nicolai Patrushev ... January or February 2021 was the time to shut up that hidden idiot ... it is too late now ... welcome to global potentially nuclear terrorism ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I can't make head nor tail of all that.....

    Adding in a covid lockdown as being stupid, I guess as stupid as going to a bomb shelter when under aerial attack?

    Some more rambling and then why didn't the Duma stop Putin.... only a handful of people knew he was actually going to invade.

    Some more rambling that I can't grasp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Depends on what came back, if Belarus sent Russia 200k shells and only 100k came back, that's 100k less shells.

    Same for tanks, troops and equipment etc...

    They may share a massive border, but there's only a few points for them to cross, as for indirect shelling from within Belarus borders, there's very little for them to shell apart from fields.

    The question arises though, if Russia does shell Ukraine from the safety of Belarusian soil, will Ukraine counter fire?.... I believe they will.

    They will not allow another Bucha or Irpin to occur.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    If only a hndful were responsible for this madness, kick the effers out .. and end this .. the Duma and army could just refuse and Putin could have told his hardline advisor to get out of his face and all ... 11 months of this and they still cannot call halt to this ... where is the Russian spirit of 1917 when they got out of another stupid war ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    You make it sound like this wasn't Putin's decision. Do you think he was forced into it?????

    Putin decided to invade and shared that plan with a handful of people (I think I read less than 5 people knew about it)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Putin made the decision advised by 5 hardliners ... that is 5-6 people at most ... Putin was not forced into it ... but was talked into it ... I hold all the others more responsible ... 5-6 prob less people can be stopped and the others didn not revolt against what they should have KNOWN as suicidal madness of 5-6 men ... they are only people not the Terminator ... they should have been stopped ... they could have been told to take a hike or shot with a simple handgun ... those who made the decision are Russia's enemy as much as they are Ukraine's and the Duma and army should have known it ... they will know it when it is too late ...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I haven't seen it reported that he was advised by 5 hardliners. You'll have to share that source.

    And the buck stops with him, how you an absolve him or have him be less responsible is ridiculous.

    Putin could have not invaded, Putin could have stopped and retreated within a week of it turning into a **** show, he carried on.

    He rewarded the butchers of Bucha with medals, he passed a law stating any crimes committed in Ukraine are acceptable (that's murder, rape, genocide, looting, war crimes etc...) but don't blame Putin is your argument? Blame the people who advised him?????



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