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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,018 ✭✭✭jmreire


    In Makhachkala, Dagestan.. wonder is Putin expecting opposition to his latest mobilization plans from there? They created problems there with protests etc last mobilization. Maybe Mr. Mayor was not dedicated enough to Vladimir?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭vixdname


    Is there a possibility that if Belarus does indeed join the fight against Ukraine, that we see any other countries, NATO members or not NATO members, act unilaterally and take sides with Ukraine ?

    Or do ye think that it would ensure NATO \ US will start giving Ukraine much more "Modern" weaponry \ battlefield equipment than they are supplying now ?

    Interested in yere thoughts.,

    Thanks all !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭jackboy


    They will probably just sit at the border to keep some Ukrainian forces away from the front line. What else can they do, try to drive down the road towards Kiev again. Their best could not do that against an unprepared Ukraine army. They would get absolutely shredded if they tried that again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,897 ✭✭✭dasdog


    140 million people with ample resources yet they have done nothing of significance in three decades. The brilliance of Stravinsky and Rachmaninoff reached global audiences yet today they jail Pussy Riot and bring nothing to the world of arts or science. Russia under Putin's authority has been a failure even if a select urban population live reasonably well in the ironically most Westerly regions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭doyle55


    They're good at corruption so it's no surprise they won those bids.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Yeah they could do that exactly. I suppose the more Russia sends into Belarus and if Ukraine believes they may invade from there the more then Ukraine would have to send there in both men and materials and less they can move against Russia in Eastern Ukraine so I suppose in that sense it will help Russia out there a bit even. I don't think they would make the same mistake and move on Kiev. The only time that would happen is if Ukraine was loosing and big time loosing. Saying that looking at the map here of Ukraine etc. The northern part that juts into both Russia and Belarus is interesting in regards to a possible northern invasion. Belarus could attack from the left and Russia from the North and right side. Could try and take that chunk from Ukraine. Your right and left and rear side is your borders so you wouldn't be getting attacked there but from the south in Ukraine if you were to take it. The river could be your furthest advance down and offers a buffer Ukraine would need to cross to get to you.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,404 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Seems the claims from the Russians that they killed "600 soldiers" are the usual lies / BS from the Kremlin. European journalists who visited the site could find no evidence that the two missiles had hit any buildings (it appears they completely missed their target). Appears to be just propaganda for the domestic Russian audience and the Putin bots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Any idea how many were based there last February?

    All the roads and bridges around the border are either blocked, mined or destroyed, so they will face more resistance than before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,018 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And then you have the question of will Belarussian Soldiers be prepared to cross the border and actually fight Ukrainians? Lukashenko is on a very sticky and precarious wicket with his own people as it stands. All it might take to trigger another revolution there would be bodybags returning in any kind of Nrs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They wouldn't need to drive to Kiev just cross the border and create another foothold (Beach head)? inside ukraine

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The claim of 600 probably verifies the accuracy of the original UA claim of killing 600 Russians.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,357 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    It's plan B from Putin to annex Belarus to save face from losing the war in Ukraine. There'll be bs about Poland ready to invade Belarus and external threats and Putin is taking Belarus under his wing to save it from war.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭Slava_Ukraine


    "It's plan B from Putin to annex Belarus to save face from losing the war in Ukraine. There'll be bs about Poland ready to invade Belarus and external threats and Putin is taking Belarus under his wing to save it from war"


    Time for a coup in White russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    If Belarus join a russian invasion from the north or if they don't and are instead subject to a new russian invasion themselves, you'd have to think in either case, there would be western support(Particularly Poland) for resistance there, potentially spreading this war. Politically supporting a Belarussian resistance/coup is not an escalation from the support being provided in Ukraine, basically still not a direct engagement of Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭jackboy


    I think it would be too risky as it still would involve an offensive action that they are unlikely to be capable of. If they cross the border Ukraine may consider it a green light to strike equipment, ammo depots and barracks in Belarus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    As regards Belarus, this could be one of a number of things -

    A tactic to slowly absorb Belarus into Russia, an opportunity to establish a force on the ground that will make it very clear to the populace who is in control.

    A safe training ground for conscripts, whilst tying up Ukrainian defenders

    To launch a new offensive from the north, maybe timed for anniversary of 'initial special military operation' so as to demoralise Ukrainian citizens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Assuming Ukraine can identify barracks of Russian military in Belarus, could/ should or would they launch a few missiles into them. By way of anticipating a defensive need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,357 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I wonder are the Russian grainstores full? #ukrainiangrain





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,050 ✭✭✭✭briany


    No-one could be naïve enough to think that the Ukrainians haven't been shoring up their northern border. They're hardly going to have diverted all their forces to the southern and eastern fronts and leave that whole flank wide open. Prior to the invasion phase, the Ukrainians were building trenches and things along it , and by time Russia might try to cross there again, Ukraine will have had another 10 months or so to improve all those defensive structures based on what they learned in the prior attempt. Russia would need considerable tactical innovation to overcome what awaits them, there. 'Russia' and 'innovation' don't sit that well together as words.

    That's not to mention the craziness of attempting to open another front when they've stalled on the other two and intelligence experts are predicting that they're rapidly diminishing in ability to mount any kind of offensive campaign. The only conclusion is that it's an attempt to dilute Ukrainian troop concentrations elsewhere. I can foresee a possibility of even that backfiring as a fortified northern front becomes a training ground for Ukrainian reservists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,067 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The Ukrainian border guards have been busy since they kicked the Horde out, mining the border and building defensive measures. From what I can gather, the seem confident that an assault from that direction will be difficult and costly for the attackers.

    That should clear up any misunderstandings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭rogber


    Actually they've contributed plenty to the arts and sciences even in the 21st century, from pianists like Daniil Trifonov to filmmakers like Tsvyagintsev and Nobel prize winners in various fields (it should be noted these people also tend to be anti Putin and anti war). Russian society is in a dreadful state but to say absolutely zero good has come out of it in 20 years is an exaggeration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭zv2


    ...

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    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭Slava_Ukraine


    And they have also contributed to madness and mayhem worldwide, no more-so than in the last year. Stop defending the scum for the few positives they have, it's boring rogber.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭rogber


    The one thing doesn't preclude the other. Is your mind so simple you can't accept that a country can have a lot of rotten elements and a small number of decent elements at the same time? Only an idiot could think defending talented dissidents is the same as defending a barbaric government



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭Slava_Ukraine


    Idiot? Where in my post did I criticize the very few decent Russkis comrade?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭rogber


    I mentioned two examples above, both of which you ignored. What's the point in listing more? For you Russian = orc. Fine, stick to that view. You don't even WANT to hear about any positive examples so why waste time?

    My hatred of Putin and his war I've made clear many times. In no way do I share forest's views. All I ever said and have always said is 140 million people can't all be lumped together as uniformly guilty. A vast majority yes, but not all. I know you disagree. Fine. We can have separate views on that issue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    1000 orcs killed in the last 36 hours. The orc offensive has failed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Some people would say mass if they could 🇻🇦



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