Enoch Burke turns up to school again despite sacking - read OP before posting

I'm not disagreeing.

But we will see more of this and similar as evangelicals, who gave strong personal beliefs and fewer organisational controls, become more numerous.

I suspect there'll be an increased focus on hiring practices in schools tbh. The likes of this idiot shouldn't be let within an asses roar of children.

I don't like the demeanor of the guy, why couldn't he drive to school by himself. A real lack of humility by someone who identifies as Christian.

and you can have it both ways, which he needs to learn.

You have to accept people for who they are not who you want them to be.

Enoch is just interpreting his religion in a way that suits his bigoted viewpoint, because no bible mentions anything about pronouns, but it does say to love your neighbour which he ignored.

The problem is the sheltered and ignorant upbringing he has endured where having only one viewpoint is normal and there is no tolerance or acceptance towards people of a different belief system. He has never had to see the world through someone elses eyes, or experienced a life outside his own and hes not starting to do so now either. He and his siblings have been educated to a high level academically but socially they inhabit in a dark lonely hole.

Does it matter? Is religion not addictive to some people?

The point is that humans oft do whats not good for them, practicing religion falls into that category at times.

Probably difficult to frame in official public sector guidelines alright. A simple google search of any candidate being considered for an interview weeds these morons out in most private sector organisations "not a good fit for the culture of the team etc.", framing that in a manner for PS though is quite tough.

Another good reason to remove religion from the education system entirely imo. Then you could weed out those from proselytising backgrounds as being "not in line with the ethos of the school" .

Some things are good for you some things arent.

Some people cant tell the difference and think whats bad is actually good, its a mistake often made by religious types.

This is a good example, a follower of religion showing his intolerance, ignorance and hatred is going to lose his job and be rendered unemployable and socially outcast, and all because of a makey-up book about some makey-up people and what they may or may not have said a few thousand years ago. But hey he has “faith”. No job and time in jail but “faith”

The family all appear to be melodramatic. It's like that friend you have that loves to create drama to feel important.

The discussions I have had about this case feel like those people were having about Charlie Sheen a few years ago. The man appears to be a bit deranged. He seems deluded about his own self-importance and the impact he is going to have. The actually beliefs he is defending appear to be secondary to his need to be a martyr. We all have beliefs we want to defend and there are pragmatic ways of trying to implement change. If he really did not want to call a child by a different pronoun he could have just refused. The theatrics and the contempt of court appear to be more about his ego and his need to see himself as a great martyr. I'm aware I've said martyr twice but I cannot think of a more appropriate word.

Realistically, what he has done changes nothing. The law will not change and peoples views on the issue of pronouns will not change. He's made himself feel important though so...good for him.

EDIT: I feel sorry for the child, their family and the staff in school. I imagine it's been very stressful for them.

I can't remember which book but there is a passage in the Old Testament where a man is dressing up as a woman and he is told not to do this.

The metaphysical assumptions underlying the Bible would be that changing sex is not possible.

Belief that changing sex is possible depends on a number of other beliefs. One is that the non-physical differences between men and women are "socially constructed". That in itself would not have been accepted by almost anyone from history. Or indeed most people alive right now.

But the thing is the vast vast majority of people don't have a view or opinion on pro nouns. I'm telling you now. Most people wouldn't know what a pro noun is if you stopped them on the street and asked them.

The Burkes are contrary. If you told them it was raining outside they close the curtains and tell you it wasn't.

Make sure it's a trans charity for the laugh.

All going well they mightn't open them again

Me and most people aren't making definitive statements, criticising parents for their approach, while knowing absolutely nothing about the child concerned. That's just you. Shame on you.

With one applicant it would be easier to leave the job vacant.

The teaching council are the body who need to be watched in all of this, they were set up for purposes like this and teachers have been struck off their register before therefore rendering them unable to teach again.

Thats a possible and somewhat probable outcome here once the disciplinary process is concluded into his behavior but you would imagine the council is getting its T’s dotted and its I’s crossed because of the litigious nature of the person.

So, bring on the pedant.

Suspended with pay pending due process, and rightly so.

He deserves due process and the timely accurate and binding results of the disciplinary process to be afforded to him, its not a simple issue and needs to be handled correctly.

Expecting the Teaching Council to step in is laughable. They won't go near this.

The whole family at this point are unemployable No company will want any of them.

What I mean by this is e.g. statements in the Book of Genesis about the nature of created reality:

God created the universe and life has intrinsic meaning

God created male and female which are separate but complementary

I'm probably over-simplifying but I mean assumptions that stand outside our existence, 'setting the frame' for our existence by bedrock assumptions about the nature of reality

Then of course there are alternative assumptions about the way the universe is which we can accept or adopt instead of that.

You are more concerned about me than some dangerous creep who is currently chomping around a school he is banned man.

Jaysus. 😕