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The 2022/23 Cazoo PDC World Darts Championship

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Well deserved win after all the heartaches just shows it can happen .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭Degag


    They'd want to cop on with the best final ever talk now. Very good of course but not sure if it'd be top 5 even.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,501 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Maybe it's recency bias but today's standard is like a different sport compared to Taylor's era.

    Imagine lads like Manley, Painter and Dudbridge in today's game (Mardle too in spite of his excellent commentary)?



  • Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,892 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Congrats too Bully Boy

    Didnt expect that perfromance from him and fully deserves that World title victory

    MVG was a beast in this tournament and will be like a man A Man Possessed this coming season



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Cataleya Wooden Roller-skate


    If Bully Boy had lost that I don't think he'd have ever recovered.

    Delighted for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Smith couldn't had written a better script. Class from both players in their post match interviews.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭LowOdour


    Smith could really be a dominant player, don't think anyone doubted his talent but that mental toughness is now there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,892 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    2 bets up

    Winning Quarter- 4/1

    Smith to win- 9/1

    A whole €14 but better than nothing



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Great stuff from Smith... won a couple of sets from 0-2, including the last, and started the final leg 180, 180. He bounces back much quicker now from poor patches.

    Top class from MVG in the post match interviews.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭Degag


    Sport will always evolve. The standard of every sport today is probably better than is was in the 90s which in turn was far better than what it was in the 70s etc.

    Manley & Painter could still have been solid top 16 players in todays game. They were solid 90-95 men in their day. Mardle was a joke of a player for the most part, a pantomine act, and the same as a commentator.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭Degag




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭boomdocker


    Brilliant win for Smith, thoroughly deserved

    MvG is the most gracious loser of the top players , always has good words to say



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭shockframe



    It is a different sport though really since the early 00s. Manley and Painter had lousy timing with the downfall of the game.

    The field is far more competitive and more financially driven than it was back then.

    It does enhance the success of players like Smith,MVG,Wright though. Winning it in a field of 96 and a gruelling year long tour.



  • Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    To be fair though , darts is one of them that you'd think wouldn't evolve that much. Obviously with the more money ,players take it more seriously. But sports science/fitness wise there's nothing there in the difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,430 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Great night of it.

    Anyone know when Premier League players are announced?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    Is it a bit harsh to suggest MVG bottled it. Was he too used to winning easy so far and when the pressure came on he folded. He seemed to totally lose his rhythm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭boomdocker


    Usually more or less immediately after the final finishes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,892 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    The game is in some place atm and no doubt we could see a £1 Million World champion soon

    Taylors legacy will never be broken because the game is getting so competitive



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭Degag


    I'd suggest that players these days look after themselves far more than they did even 20 years ago. More and more players are able to play professionally these days due to the money available also. Therefore able to put more hours into practice. Years ago most players probably had real jobs.

    Technology has also improved. Dart Boards and darts themselves are far better than they were.

    All these factors will contribute to a general increase in standard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭hawkwing


    Look at the size of the double,treble and bull from any old match and the staples etc. Different darts too. Priestley threw a better average in the final 27years ago than Smith today and lost (several other examples). And they were playing for peanuts at the time compared to today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Smith was more solid and deserved the win. He’s a different animal since the Grand Slam.

    Considering how dominant he’s been MVG has not won enough World titles. 3 wins and now 3 defeats in finals. I think leg play seems to suit him better than sets. (Although he does have 6 Grand Prix’s but the double start there makes it different again).

    Was a normal enough final averages wise and standard. Certainly not the greatest final of all time or anything like it.

    The standard these days is way over played. This was a dreadful tournament for close games and top notch play. Few and far between to say the least.

    Peak Taylor would have mopped the floor with everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭hawkwing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Taylor is still the better player but half of his title wins were in limited with players that were past their best or limited. Not to mention 10-11 were won in 32 player comps.

    It would have been a lot harder for him to build a legacy had he started out in the mid to late 00s like MVG.



  • Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    Yeah no id agree with most of this , I still think it doesn't compare as much to advancements in other sports though!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Healio


    It looked a bit as if MVG burned himself out getting to the final in the manner he did (perhaps the draw comes into play?).

    Smith definitely seemed to have learned from that mistake from his last two finals; peaking very nicely into the tournament. (Anyone know if he is with a sports psycologist/Ex-Pro?).

    Albeit, Smith was very lucky to get out of the Schindler match, and then Bunting gifted him a late Christmas present.

    Standard-wise, was it the best?; probably not; was it the worst absolutely not.

    I personally thought the close games came at the wrong end of the tournament, as did hammerings.

    A 6-0, 6-2 set of semi's, in addition to a 5-0, 5-1 quarter may have soured things for those of us more versed in competitive darts.

    For a tournament that looked like 800 maximums was in trouble on Christmas Day, to a tournament where the spread betting firms mid-pointed 921 on New Years Day; shows the class at the top end.

    A great renewal for me, I hope the coming season and indeed next Year can live up to it again!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Great final - not the best ever despite the hype, but it included the best leg ever so that alone makes it one of the most memorable finals. Taylor v RVB still the best ever final I'd say.

    Averages were only 100 v 99 in the end, it felt like they should have been higher but the speed both players play at maybe made the quality look better than it actually was.

    MVG will be very disappointed to still only have three world titles, he should have a few more by now really. And it won't get any easier now either as Smith will be a different animal in future with the monkey off his back.

    I don't think the Premier League picks are announced until after the masters these days. I always think the picks are more interesting than the tournament itself though, at 17 weeks or whatever it's hard to stay interested in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭klose


    It was probably on course to be one of if not the greatest final ever untill the 5th/6th set when both players started peppering the 1 and 5 which hurt the averages a fair bit, mvg really tapered off then also. Delighted for Smith!



  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭TipsyMcStagge


    Delighted for Smith well deserved. After 7 sets I thought it was on course to be the greatest ever final but it tapered off badly after that not that Smith will give a sh!te. It did have the greatest ever leg of darts though that's for sure.



  • Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    Full agree with people on here , it looked certainly like it would be the best ever , but mvg fell away badly and smith didn't.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭DJIMI TRARORE


    Have to agree with previous quotes, was on course to be an all time greatest final,but MVG fell apart when the pressure came on,bullyboy destroyed him



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    MvG very gracious in defeat as usual. His comments on De Sousa a while back really turned me off him. He’s a much fairer loser than winner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,343 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    I'm no MVG fan, but he's a phenomenal loser. because he's so confident of winning, it goes unnoticed sometimes just how gracious he is when he's lost.

    the tournament itself was pretty poor on the whole. the fact I still remember the MVG/Suljovic stuff is probably testament to that.

    Smith is a deserved winner. the key to beating MVG is matching the scoring (easier said than done), but then not choking, because he will give you chances in the clutch on double if you're within striking distance. it's the one area of MVG's game that he's never fully cleaned up. Smith's scoring was so good that bar one set he was always on MVG's tail, and it told.



  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭US3


    Thoughts and prayers with Justin Credible this morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭celt262




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭Degag




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,283 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Does anyone know if the final will be shown on any non sub channels? We missed all of it due to a bereavement of the person who mainly watched it, so was hoping it would be shown at some stage on some free Sky channel or something else? Not the whole lot, just the final, seems like it was a good one.

    Google only gives me results to questions I didn't ask...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    There's half an hour of highlights on you tube.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,511 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Do you have Sky Sports Mix? Its comes free with some non-sub packages including Virgin Media in the Dublin area, station 409. If so, it's been shown a few times already today (which obviously you've missed!) and is on again tomorrow Thursday at 16:30.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,283 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Oh, we've the basic Sky Q package (HATE Sky Q, what a step backwards) so not sure, but I'll give it a look, cheers!



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  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I went from watching a lot of darts back around 10 years to almost none now. But I love the World Championships. Whoever decided it should be held over the Christmas period is a proper genius. It's perfect "sure I'll throw it on and watch it" material before Christmas Day, and then the way they have arranged the games after Christmas Day is inspired.

    I didn't care for Wayne 501 as a player, but he's top class as a commentator. Talks a fair amount of shíte, but that's needed during some sets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,283 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    So we do have Mix, but for some reason after talking about MvG, and now it's showing beach soccer for the last 15 min.... wtf?!

    Will wait till its over and rematch! Cheers for the advice though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,511 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Ouch. Even their own listings webpage has it down for 16:30 to 20:00 today. I wonder has someone rolled the wrong cassette into the disk or whatever at their end. Seems like you are destined to miss it.

    Sports TV Guide, Listings, Schedule, Programme | Sky Sports



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,283 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    No, it's on. But during the match, every time there's an ad break, they show 15 minutes of something random, like beach soccer, golf, and then go back to the next Set as if nothing happened. It's crazy. So much that we didn't get to most of it so have it recorded to fast forward those bits. First few sets were pretty good, with possibly the best leg I've ever seen in darts, followed by some terrible finishing misses! Looking forward to the rest of it though. 16 180's and only in the 4th set. Madness!



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