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The 2022/23 Cazoo PDC World Darts Championship

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    #722
    hawkwing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭hawkwing


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120062489#Comment_120062489

    Look at the size of the double,treble and bull from any old match and the staples etc. Different darts too. Priestley threw a better average in the final 27years ago than Smith today and lost (several other examples). And they were playing for peanuts at the time compared to today.



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    #723
    mdwexford
    Registered Users Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Smith was more solid and deserved the win. He’s a different animal since the Grand Slam.

    Considering how dominant he’s been MVG has not won enough World titles. 3 wins and now 3 defeats in finals. I think leg play seems to suit him better than sets. (Although he does have 6 Grand Prix’s but the double start there makes it different again).

    Was a normal enough final averages wise and standard. Certainly not the greatest final of all time or anything like it.

    The standard these days is way over played. This was a dreadful tournament for close games and top notch play. Few and far between to say the least.

    Peak Taylor would have mopped the floor with everyone.



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    #724
    hawkwing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭hawkwing


    Dartboard Segment Sizes Compare 1978 to 2016 - YouTube off topic



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    #725
    shockframe
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120062614#Comment_120062614

    Taylor is still the better player but half of his title wins were in limited with players that were past their best or limited. Not to mention 10-11 were won in 32 player comps.

    It would have been a lot harder for him to build a legacy had he started out in the mid to late 00s like MVG.



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    #726
    squidgainz
    Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120062628#Comment_120062628

    Yeah no id agree with most of this , I still think it doesn't compare as much to advancements in other sports though!



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    #727
    Healio
    Registered Users Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Healio


    It looked a bit as if MVG burned himself out getting to the final in the manner he did (perhaps the draw comes into play?).

    Smith definitely seemed to have learned from that mistake from his last two finals; peaking very nicely into the tournament. (Anyone know if he is with a sports psycologist/Ex-Pro?).

    Albeit, Smith was very lucky to get out of the Schindler match, and then Bunting gifted him a late Christmas present.

    Standard-wise, was it the best?; probably not; was it the worst absolutely not.

    I personally thought the close games came at the wrong end of the tournament, as did hammerings.

    A 6-0, 6-2 set of semi's, in addition to a 5-0, 5-1 quarter may have soured things for those of us more versed in competitive darts.

    For a tournament that looked like 800 maximums was in trouble on Christmas Day, to a tournament where the spread betting firms mid-pointed 921 on New Years Day; shows the class at the top end.

    A great renewal for me, I hope the coming season and indeed next Year can live up to it again!



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    #728
    Cosmo Kramer
    Registered Users Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Great final - not the best ever despite the hype, but it included the best leg ever so that alone makes it one of the most memorable finals. Taylor v RVB still the best ever final I'd say.

    Averages were only 100 v 99 in the end, it felt like they should have been higher but the speed both players play at maybe made the quality look better than it actually was.

    MVG will be very disappointed to still only have three world titles, he should have a few more by now really. And it won't get any easier now either as Smith will be a different animal in future with the monkey off his back.

    I don't think the Premier League picks are announced until after the masters these days. I always think the picks are more interesting than the tournament itself though, at 17 weeks or whatever it's hard to stay interested in it.



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    #729
    klose
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    It was probably on course to be one of if not the greatest final ever untill the 5th/6th set when both players started peppering the 1 and 5 which hurt the averages a fair bit, mvg really tapered off then also. Delighted for Smith!



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    #730
    TipsyMcStagge
    Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭TipsyMcStagge


    Delighted for Smith well deserved. After 7 sets I thought it was on course to be the greatest ever final but it tapered off badly after that not that Smith will give a sh!te. It did have the greatest ever leg of darts though that's for sure.



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    #731
    squidgainz
    Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    Full agree with people on here , it looked certainly like it would be the best ever , but mvg fell away badly and smith didn't.



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    #732
    DJIMI TRARORE
    Registered Users Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭DJIMI TRARORE


    Have to agree with previous quotes, was on course to be an all time greatest final,but MVG fell apart when the pressure came on,bullyboy destroyed him



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    #733
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    MvG very gracious in defeat as usual. His comments on De Sousa a while back really turned me off him. He’s a much fairer loser than winner.



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    #734
    SlickRic
    Registered Users Posts: 36,060 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120064371#Comment_120064371

    I'm no MVG fan, but he's a phenomenal loser. because he's so confident of winning, it goes unnoticed sometimes just how gracious he is when he's lost.

    the tournament itself was pretty poor on the whole. the fact I still remember the MVG/Suljovic stuff is probably testament to that.

    Smith is a deserved winner. the key to beating MVG is matching the scoring (easier said than done), but then not choking, because he will give you chances in the clutch on double if you're within striking distance. it's the one area of MVG's game that he's never fully cleaned up. Smith's scoring was so good that bar one set he was always on MVG's tail, and it told.



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    #735
    US3
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭US3


    Thoughts and prayers with Justin Credible this morning



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    #736
    celt262
    Registered Users Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭celt262


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120065220#Comment_120065220

    Bellyboy 😱



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    #737
    Degag
    Registered Users Posts: 9,952 ✭✭✭Degag


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120064371#Comment_120064371

    Correct. He's a very bad winner.



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    #738
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,808 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Does anyone know if the final will be shown on any non sub channels? We missed all of it due to a bereavement of the person who mainly watched it, so was hoping it would be shown at some stage on some free Sky channel or something else? Not the whole lot, just the final, seems like it was a good one.

    Google only gives me results to questions I didn't ask...



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    #739
    Sultan of Bling
    Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120066407#Comment_120066407

    There's half an hour of highlights on you tube.



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    #740
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120066407#Comment_120066407

    Do you have Sky Sports Mix? Its comes free with some non-sub packages including Virgin Media in the Dublin area, station 409. If so, it's been shown a few times already today (which obviously you've missed!) and is on again tomorrow Thursday at 16:30.



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    #741
    Potential-Monke
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    Oh, we've the basic Sky Q package (HATE Sky Q, what a step backwards) so not sure, but I'll give it a look, cheers!



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    #742
    [Deleted User]
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    I went from watching a lot of darts back around 10 years to almost none now. But I love the World Championships. Whoever decided it should be held over the Christmas period is a proper genius. It's perfect "sure I'll throw it on and watch it" material before Christmas Day, and then the way they have arranged the games after Christmas Day is inspired.

    I didn't care for Wayne 501 as a player, but he's top class as a commentator. Talks a fair amount of shíte, but that's needed during some sets.



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    #743
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,808 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    So we do have Mix, but for some reason after talking about MvG, and now it's showing beach soccer for the last 15 min.... wtf?!

    Will wait till its over and rematch! Cheers for the advice though!



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    #744
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120070015#Comment_120070015

    Ouch. Even their own listings webpage has it down for 16:30 to 20:00 today. I wonder has someone rolled the wrong cassette into the disk or whatever at their end. Seems like you are destined to miss it.

    Sports TV Guide, Listings, Schedule, Programme | Sky Sports



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    #745
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,808 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    No, it's on. But during the match, every time there's an ad break, they show 15 minutes of something random, like beach soccer, golf, and then go back to the next Set as if nothing happened. It's crazy. So much that we didn't get to most of it so have it recorded to fast forward those bits. First few sets were pretty good, with possibly the best leg I've ever seen in darts, followed by some terrible finishing misses! Looking forward to the rest of it though. 16 180's and only in the 4th set. Madness!



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