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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #46472
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,296 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120042168#Comment_120042168

    Okay, why is India requiring travellers from 5 Asian countries produce a negative result before entering India? Is there something you know that they don't?



  • #46473
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭jackboy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120042217#Comment_120042217

    It’s impossible for country the size of India to keep a new variant out. Even PCR testing is not reliable enough for that purpose. This has been conclusively proven over the last couple of years. Therefore, such policies cannot be for keeping covid or variants out.



  • #46474
    jimmybobbyschweiz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭jimmybobbyschweiz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120042016#Comment_120042016

    Test for COVID and you'll probably find it. It's just nonsense at this stage. I've seen much worse illnesses the last few months than COVID caused in two years; children getting bad doses of flu lasting a week and horrendous vomiting bugs.

    The COVID hysterics are now agreeing with Trump if they agree with measures against China, full circle loopers!



  • #46475
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,296 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043166#Comment_120043166

    Irish hospitals are starting to seriously struggle with Covid AND flu (and Strep A and other cases) at the moment. If cases over here rise significantly we may need to take some measures again, just to preserve hospital capacity over the season.

    There are countries out there, e.g. India, who don't want 10's of thousands of Asian Covid positive cases pouring into the country, so they've simply reenacted travel measures. Show a negative test before coming over (most countries had this previously). Is there something you know that the Indian health authorities and experts don't?



  • #46476
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,296 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120042915#Comment_120042915

    It's not to keep it out. The aim is to avoid any unnecessary surge. It's about reducing. Indian hospitals currently only have a few thousand Covid cases in a country with 1.4 bn people. They don't want 10's of thousands of Covid positive Asians suddenly arriving in the country if they can avoid it.



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  • #46477
    DLink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043258#Comment_120043258

    If cases over here rise significantly we may need to take some measures again

    You mean you want to buy them even more time to fix their problems?

    No one gave two fiddlers about people on trolleys or overcrowding before covid, but now that they've had a taste of restrictions, they're loving it and feel like social justice warriors when they issue the call to arms, or in this case, lock them down.

    Introduce measures here, a few restrictions there... At the fist sign of trouble the twitchers reach for the lockdowns, restrictions and masks, yet when anyone pushes back against that attitude they're labelled anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists or both.

    Every country in the world did, still is, or are starting to clutch at straws again... it's all just so they can be seen to do something. It's about time we lived with covid properly and just let it fade into the background, and stop dredging the "take measures" argument up every time the HSE creaks a bit more than normal.

    Post edited by DLink on


  • #46478
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,296 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043357#Comment_120043357

    Cool. The hospitals are under pressure presently. Maybe that will ease up. Maybe it won't. If it doesn't and if flu/covid cases keep rising and putting even more pressure on them, then they may ask for some measures to curb the numbers (e.g. more mask wearing)

    It's nothing to do with politics, the past, there's no "gotcha's". It's simple, basic science.



  • #46479
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043378#Comment_120043378

    Are the hospitals under pressure? The official numbers show 38 in ICU in the entire country. Was around 100 this time last year and they weren't overwhelmed either. We also don't know what percentage are actually in ICU solely because of COVID, probably around half.

    Maybe they just have to accept that it will be a little busy during winter...

    As our Taoiseach said, they've never had a bigger budget so deal with it.


    We have the right level of restrictions right now - zero.



  • #46480
    DLink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043378#Comment_120043378

    Let them deal with the hospitals as they always did... ignore the problem except for a few sound bytes on RTE.

    Don't go running for restrictions on the entire population just to cover for government & HSE ineptitude again and again and again.

    People need to ditch the "introduce restrictions" and "take measures" mindset.

    You can't squeeze the population for tax money to fund the service, and when that's not enough, hang the spectre of restrictions over their heads.

    That's like having your cake and eating it, yet is still probably won't be enough.



  • #46481
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,296 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043458#Comment_120043458


    Perhaps the news of the high cases and advice to take precautions will cause people to be more careful and the spread will slow, but indeed if it doesn't, I wouldn't be surprised to see something like a temp mask mandate or some variant of it introduced.

    Who knows, we'll see. It's up to the hospitals/health authorities to make that call.



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  • #46482
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    How many people aged 18 to 49 with no underlying health issues are in hospital with COVID?

    I see they are opening up boosters to this group...

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/1229/1344051-covid-ireland/




  • #46483
    Don't Chute!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043258#Comment_120043258

    Why are we constantly being asked/told to cover-up the unbelievable amount of incompetence in the HSE? When are these cvnts going to be held responsible for their bullshit? With the amount of money that goes into the health service here it should be one of the best in the world.



  • #46484
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043628#Comment_120043628

    Exactly, if any other sector showed this level of incompetence the management would be forced out and somebody else given a shot.

    Here we reward them with large pensions.



  • #46485
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,296 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043628#Comment_120043628

    Oh there's def incompetence there, that said there are good staff, there are healthcare professionals working their asses off to cover the big spike this Xmas. Also, we aren't the only country with healthcare issues, it's everywhere to a greater or lesser degree.



  • #46486
    Coolcormack1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043378#Comment_120043378

    #followthescience.no thanks Sam mcconkey



  • #46487
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭jackboy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043276#Comment_120043276

    You cannot prevent a surge by testing incoming travellers for the simple reason that covid spreads exponentially. One incoming case could infect the whole country. A few thousand covid cases in India, that is impossible. I guarantee there are orders of magnitude more than that.



  • #46488
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,076 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043415#Comment_120043415

    our health systems are completely fcuked since covid, we havent done anything differently since it arrived, 3 years ago, was only talking to a paramedic last week, their shifts are anything between 12-17 hours currently, so id say we re proper fcuked now, but dont worry, fcuk all will be done to relive these problems!



  • #46489
    jimmybobbyschweiz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭jimmybobbyschweiz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120043781#Comment_120043781

    From an IT article today;


    “It’s pointless,” Jari Jalava, an infectious disease expert at Finland’s health authority, told state broadcaster Yle.



  • #46490
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    In what place has covid ever spread exponentially until the whole country was infected? You'd swear the past 3 years didn't happen the way some people are going on. We know at this stage that cases peak and drop again, even without any measures. I didn't think we'd see the hysteria around 'exponential spread!' again



  • #46491
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭jackboy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120044423#Comment_120044423

    We used lockdowns to prevent the whole population getting infected. With Omicron, we let it run and yes, practically everyone quickly caught it.



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  • #46492
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    In no country was the entire population infected in one wave and from a single person. Stop being ridiculous.



  • #46493
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭jackboy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120044650#Comment_120044650

    Each variant originates from a single individual who goes on to infect a large part of the world. Not sure why you are denying the basics of how viruses work.



  • #46494
    kirk.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/1229/1344049-covid-global/

    Still can't agree on anything



  • #46495
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Considerable drop in hospital numbers today. 723 - 670. The numbers don't appear to be taking off at all.



  • #46496
    cheezums
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭cheezums


    Travel controls don't work for Covid, that's been proven.

    It is annoying how secretive China are about their numbers.

    In general though I couldn't care less. Had multiple jabs, got covid at least once, I'm done with it.

    The reporting on the China situation is completely hysterical to be honest. They're just where everyone else was about a year ago.



  • #46497
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120045824#Comment_120045824

    Wow, ICU down from 38 to 29 also.



  • #46498
    Coolcormack1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    Being told u have it and u don’t and u do 2 bloody tests to prove u don’t have it .and still told ur a fcuking idiot.the damage this whole thing has done to people is unbelievable



  • #46499
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Spain requiring all air passengers coming from China to have negative Covid-19 tests or proof of vaccination is idiotic. Having a requirement for negative tests is the only route worth going if you want to bring in controls.



  • #46500
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,431 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120046456#Comment_120046456

    Great numbers given what's going on.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • #46501
    jimmybobbyschweiz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭jimmybobbyschweiz


    Tanja Stadler, said on Thursday that travel restrictions would have only a marginal impact on the situation in Europe, given the currently high prevalence of the virus. The risk of a dangerous new variant arriving is also low.

    That's the view of the authorities where I am, in Switzerland.

    I can't get over the Irish media's obsession with publishing headlines on overcrowded hospitals the whole time and then trying to blame COVID for that. It is relentless in the media, but it's not newsworthy to be a relentless topic. Even reporting hospital COVID numbers I do not understand unless the media are getting paid to drum up COVID hysteria.



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