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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Killer K


    What mode were you in? Get plenty of recharge in my ceed phev and it has an identical drivetrain to the Niro. The Niro you were in today is far more efficient than the 530e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    Good question thx. I don’t know which mode..in fairness the ICE range surprised me as filled the tank (mid 30s litres) and range 650 km…330e has similar tank but in the 400s, a 2 litre engine vs 1.4 in the Nero PHEV..I know this is a 530e thread but if you had mode advice for the Nero, to get ICE recharge, I’ll pass it on…thanks and have a good of New Year..



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Full tank on the 530e is 40L. Displayed range currently at full is 330km (petrol) and 34km (battery). 2017 car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Killer K


    Conscious of not polluting the 530e thread with Niro talk as you say! If you are looking for the engine to charge the battery then put it into sport mode and don't drive it too hard. It is not something I do as it impacts fuel consumption. To maintain the battery charge if driving long distance on motorway and wanting to have battery for urban or local roads at the other end it is best to use hybrid mode. Brake regeneration works all the time you are braking (unless braking very hard to avoid hitting something). AFAIK, the Niro PHEV doesn't have the regenerative paddles on the steering but open to correction on this. You might have a look. For the Ceed and Xceed PHEV, because neither have the paddles, there is a common misconception that regenerative braking isn't available. It occurs without needing the paddles but cannot be adjusted (in the same way it can be in an Ioniq 5, which I know you are familiar with).

    The Niro has a 1.6 rather than 1.4 petrol engine. This is run on the Atkinson cycle similar to the Toyota hybrids. So it isn't turbo charged but gets its boost (admittedly no where near the boost a 530e or 330e has) from the electric motor.

    Any questions, happy to answer by PM. Kia/Hyundai took a very different approach with their PHEVs (Niro/ceed/Ioniq) in comparison to most other manufacturers meaning that they gave them a modest amount of BHP (well south of 200bhp) but as a result, they are by far the most efficient- even with a 0% battery charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    Great stuff thx I’ll pass it on. The 330e and I’m sure the 530e also has a good auto select, very sensitive. I’m a Max EDrive driver..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,762 ✭✭✭whippet


    I have been doing a commute recently in my G20 330e .. 65km each way and I have a home charger and free charging at the office. Averaging about 1.5l/100km over the week - that is about 85% motorway (M1 / M50) .. so relatively slow moving overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭antseanoifig


    I'm looking for some advice as I'm in the market for a 530e (initially 330e but have moved on from that idea now).

    I'm trying to differentiate the different battery models and when the change occurred. I'm looking for a 182-192 but not sure if I'll end up with the bigger battery? The budget is tight at a max €35k so expecting higher mileage too and want to be conscious of any potential battery degradation.

    I'd have a 25km commute to work and charging at both ends, so I would like to think I'd nearly manage full electric on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,931 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Bigger battey model will be a minimum of a 192 plate as far as I know. We bought one 2 days ago. Its a lovely car. Small boot but otherwise great.

    You should just about do your commute on the smaller battery except in cold/heavy traffic/high speed. Normal mixed driving should be OK.

    My advice would be get the best car you can get for your money, msport if thats what you want, low mileage, good condition, well specced, don't let the battery be the be all and end all because no matter how much you think you won't use much petrol, reality is, you will. Plugging in 2/3 times a day in the wind and the rain can become a pain and you might not do it! And any usage after work will be on petrol too as you won't be charged up for a few hours.

    The missus has a shorter commute than you but I am only estimating 50% of distance will be covered by battery, if even that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭cyborg


    12kW battery model 530e also has the C shaped speedo dials from 192 onwards,

    some 192's will have the round dials and I assume the smaller battery also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,000 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Yes and that dash display alone is worth looking for as the old setup is past it imo.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Some 181 cars got the new dash, i always though that meant it was the 12 kWh version, but now i'm not too sure.


    Here's a 181 - 181D BMW 530E M-Sport for sale in Dublin for €28,900 on DoneDeal


    9 kWh Battery

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    possible 12 kWh Battery

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,000 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Never saw an 18 with the new dash before. I'd put money on that being the wrong photo on that ad.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Autosports would be a decent dealer, not like them to mix and match photos.

    Possible it was retrofitted?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,000 ✭✭✭✭mickdw



    I've seen the photos mixed up before on a 530e .... Same dash issue.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Yeah, that newer dash only comes with the Series 7 software, which cannot be retrofitted to the older models to the best of my knowledge.

    That's the wrong photo. The newer version came out in the 2nd half of 2019 , around August (aligning with the change in UK plates)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭WacoKid


    If you want highest spec for your money then GT Motors in Baldoyle is best place to start. Consistantly has the highest spec 530e stock in the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭OmegaRed


    Looking at the first picture of the 9kw version (same as my 182). I see it has the speed liit sign post. I don't have that on my car. I also don have the front facing camrea (fron bottom of the grill). I always wondered was am issing a setting or is something not switched on?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,931 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Wants massive money for them. He's a good marketer too ill give him that, makes his ads stand out.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I have the speed post sign on our 172 one. It also pops up with stop signs etc.

    I have LED headlights, front cameras and night vision with pedestrian alert so not sure if that’s one package or part of a package.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭WacoKid


    Can't really comment on comparative prices as I'm not active in the market. If you want low milage, newer car but with less spec then yes maybe he's not your guy. But if you like your toys its as a good a place to start anyway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭antseanoifig


    Thanks for the replies on this one.

    I had noticed the variation in dash display - circular vs c shaped so had assumed this was a differentiation on battery also. Certainly looking for M Sport but might have to stretch the budget beyond the 35k to get the bigger battery and spec.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭antseanoifig


    Just to note on this also, I gave a call to Autosport on that particular vehicle.


    Stated that it was the smaller battery but had the updated dash? Mentioned spec as M Sport Plus? So maybe the dash was an option pre 2019 rather than standard thereafter on the 12kwh.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Very possible as the digital dash was an option in the F10 from 2015. It also could be retrofitted quite easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Maddic_Irl


    Usually the pre 12kw battery version have eDrive badges on the rear pillars.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    That seems to be another subtle difference too. I never knew that one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,000 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    That dash was not an option in 18. Most of the 18 cars were just onto the dash without the protruding silver rings.

    The edrive badges I believe could be deleted when ordering since 2017.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    There seems to be a mix mash of dashes out there.

    Hers a 192 model, 12 kWh Battery and upgraded dash - BMW 5 Series 530E M Sport (plus Pack / 12kwh Batt for sale in Dublin for €42,900 on DoneDeal

    But if you look at the centre console, physical buttons, my 172 has none, the whole lower half is digital touch screen. I haven’t seen many with that yet

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    The 18 in Autosports would appear to have the newer cluster, and I'm convinced a seen a 182 with the new cluster a few months back too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭Jog501


    Mine has that digital lower half, it's part of the executive package with rear climate and rear heated seats (181).



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Cool. I haven’t seen any other with it.

    Do you have the rear entertainment system? Screens and dvd etc?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭Jog501


    No, just adaptive cruise control and slightly better seats. It's a strange spec I haven't seen on any Irish car for sale since. The ACC is great though, wouldn't buy another car without it.



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