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World Cup 2022 - Team and Match Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    What I meant - apologies as I should have elaborated more - is that he comes across as being naturally thick/stupid. Plenty of uneducated people would be highly bright and intelligent.

    Not too sure with this fella.



  • Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wind up merchant fine but carrying around a doll with mbappe’s face, I wouldn’t class that as winding up, just being a bit of a tool.

    He won the tournament and good luck to him but targeting a guy that scored 4 past him in about 45 minutes of football … bit odd! Like others have said, he’s not the brightest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭jacool


    As Kylian Mbappe turned 24 overnight, these are the comparable stats for Messi and Mbappe achieved up to that age.

    I haven't got a clue as to what injuries either have had up to now, but surely Mbappe can't maintain this pace, or can he?

    Lionel Messi Kylian Mbappe

    Matches – 269 Matches – 303

    Goals – 181 Goals – 225

    Assists – 82 Assists – 111

    International Caps – 57 International Caps – 67

    International Goals – 17 International Goals – 39



  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He comes across as someone who doesn't know give a flying **** tbh!



  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think what Mbabbe said about the Argentinan league wasn't the brightest, and the timing was incredibly dumb. It served as a bit of extra motivation for the Argentine squad, and the fans especially.

    He was fair game then. Mbabbe is a bit of a whinger anyway, so I felt no sympathy for him.

    If Martinez is not the brightest, I don't know what that makes Mbabbe.



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  • Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    its not about sympathy, I’m sure Mbappe is very content with his life. It’s about the face martinez is being a bit of an idiot, not sure how that is debatable, like I said targeting a guy who ruined him personally for 45 minutes is just silly, it’s not like he stopped him on an individual level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭jacool




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭jacool


    Interesting photograph appeared at the moment Messi put Argentina 3-2 ahead.

    Someone said that if VAR had been used correctly, this would have been chalked off as Argentina have 12 or 13 players on the pitch.

    image.png




  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ruined him personally. Lol. And walked away with a silver medal!

    Martinez had the last laugh tbf. I'd say he was happy to let him score 10 goals in exchange for the main prize.



  • Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    yeah, not like Mbappe has one already!

    If you think it’s in anyway funny, ‘banter’ , fair enough, does nothing for me!



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  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Maybe he'll choose his words more carefully before a big game again. Not the sharpest tool in the box!

    Anyway, as you say he has a winners medal already so he's content enough I'd say. Until his next whinge at PSG!

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    The ball was over the line before they stepped across the line, I think. Look where the ball is.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭McFly85


    I think that was a throwaway quote from a few months back, where he also said he considered Argentina the favourites. Hardly being disrespectful.

    Argentina are pretty bad winners, between the doll and I think the crowd had a coffin with an Mbappe in it too. You’ve just won the biggest prize in international football, why are you celebrating that a team or player lost the tournament instead?



  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That throwaway comment was printed in a number of publications in the build up to the match. To be fair, it wasn't the worst thing in the world he said. However, I can imagine it was annoying to Argentine fans and players. It obviously cut deep considering their reaction, and the reaction of fans towards Mbappe.

    He unwittingly helped to give extra motivation to the opposition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Garzorico


    This Argentina are an unlikeable team. But you man Martinez is a very unlikeable. I do look forward to his future f*ck ups, losses etc. Karma is a b*tch and when it comes to visit him I think the whole world will enjoy it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,065 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Yeah I don't think a few howlers with Aston Villa will make him regret his antics winning the World Cup too much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭jacool


    Its on the line - this photograph was frozen at that precise moment.

    If I have to go back and explain that Japan visual again, we're all staying behind after class. Parallax, I think they said :)



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    😀 Fair enough.


    I would say though, if the goal was disallowed for that I'd be furious. Yes it's the letter of the law, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the play, zero advantage was gained. So the spirit of the game should allow for it.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I asked the question seconds after the goal was scored so If I could see it was close the officals in the VAR must have seen it and decided to just ingore it.

    The ball hadn't crossed the line before the squad players came on the pitch which means the goal should not have stood.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭jacool


    We won't be re-writing history here, but if there was one thing FIFA took from this tournament besides the £7b. I would hope that it would be to stop any non-players encroaching on the pitch, at any time. This just became a thing in the group stages, and was probably exacerbated by the 26 man panel. Also, there should be designated "warming up" areas, and players warming up should not be allowed become so active as they were across this World Cup. Perhaps there should be limits on how many can be out there at any time too.

    Oh, and don't ever have a Winter World Cup again either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Absolutely agree. Given that goals can be allowed where one of the eleven is in an offside position but not “active” in the play, it would be bizarre if a goal was to be ruled out because a couple of subs put a foot over the line on the far side of the pitch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    Indeed. It would be so bizarre to scratch it out that I can hardly believe I've seen that image so many times in the past week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭FatherTed


    It's a bit ironic how L'Equipe and some French fans are complaining about that goal. They have short memories.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,882 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    dont think gio reyna's mother is best pleased he didnt have a role in the world cup. what a bizarre story:

    The mother of USA midfielder Gio Reyna has confirmed she reported head coach Gregg Berhalter for kicking his wife over 30 years ago....during an argument as a teenager.

    The governing body instigated the probe after Berhalter, who took his side to the World Cup in Qatar, revealed he had been the subject of a threat to expose the incident involving his then girlfriend Rosalind in 1991 during the tournament.


    sounds like the mother may have tried blackmailing him, but to step him down cos something he did as a teenager is disgraceful.

    "But I want to be very clear that I did not ask for Gregg to be fired, I did not make any threats, and I don't know anything about any blackmail attempts, nor have I ever had any discussions about anyone else on Gregg's staff-I don't know any of the other coaches."

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12780151/gregg-berhalter-mother-of-gio-reyna-confirms-she-reported-usmnt-head-coach-for-kicking-his-wife-in-1991



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    Helicopter parenting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,065 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    All this tells me is that the Reynas are fine with what they believe to be domestic abuse until they can use it as blackmail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    Berhalter’s position is effectively untenable now, I can’t see his contract being renewed. As much of a spoilt brat as he is, Reyna is the most talented player the US have. And since Berhalter is already an unpopular coach, this circus won’t go away were he to stay.

    Best case scenario is a new coach, a hopefully more mature Reyna becoming the star man, and Berhalter sues the pair that spawned him for everything they’re worth



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