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World Cup 2022 - Team and Match Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭elefant


    Yellow cards were wiped after the quarter finals. A yellow card for Messi would have had no impact on anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,903 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Messi dug deep last night, and left it all on the pitch. He done all he could, did Ronaldo? Ronaldo calls himself the supreme athlete , the strongest, the fittest, and yet in the whole world cup he covered a mile in all the games, while a Chinese man in his 50's ran a marathon in 3 hours last week, 26 miles, while chain smoking. So how can someone as young as Ronaldo, who is super fit, not do more than stand still, or walk, and only come alive when he gets the ball. I think he has got lazy this past year, Messi is forever busy, as is Modric, who is Ronaldo's age, yet covers every blade of grass, he tends to be the one with the last ditch tackle to save a shot on goal, when everyone is wondering where are all the defenders.

    Ronaldo at the moment at club level and international level is getting carried, it's why no one wants him, and again it's not as if he can't do more, he simply doesn't , that's not giving 100%, it's giving 25%



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,697 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    It was a penalty. I struggle to see what the controversy is.

    Yes, the keeper was unlucky, but if you rush out to try and smother a shot, you have to get the ball and not hit the player. he didn't get the ball and he hit the player. If the keeper had not been there to hit the player and not the ball, Alvarez would have had an easier shot and scored. The only reason Alvarez tried to finish like that was because of the keeper.

    It's a definite penalty.

    Is it annoying if you're pulling for Croatia? Yes. Is it unfortunately yet another penalty for Argentina in this World Cup? Yes. But it's a penalty.

    I'd have far more of an issue with the license many of their players seemed to have to rant at the referee - and he's normally very strong. De Paul was insane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,745 ✭✭✭jacool


    Correct, and incorrect. A yellow card by itself would have not led to a suspension, but it could have curtailed Messi getting involved in anything else for the rest of the game. Unconsciously it lets Argentina know that they are going to get away with a lot more than they should.

    Surprised it hasn't been mentioned but Paredes, cleaned out a player on the side-line, just before he got substituted. Yellow card, all day long, but not here. Again, its the referee thinking they are letting the game continue, but they're not. He let Argentina slow down every free-kick.

    Croatia were no saints by the way. At least twice Perisic held the ball for throw-ins and eventually gave it to the thrower. All easy when the ref is spineless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭elefant


    They apparently went 3-0 up just after this key incident. I don't think Messi's pressing game would have suffered too much from the risk of a second yellow.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,350 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    He didn't do any running because he was afraid of his life to be anywhere other than around the penalty spot for fear it would be someone else to get the glory.

    It was so obvious against Morocco. He was there in the middle for everything and never once made a diversional run to create space or drop back to help build play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    the way it looked to me he played much wider than usual when he came on vs Morocco and moved more central when Goncalo went off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭hawaii501


    If the ball went out of play or over I don't think the ref would have gave a pen bit ot was a stonewaller. Can't believe any of the arguments against it.

    Reminded me of Luis Garcia ghost goal, if goal wasn't given a pen and red would have been.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Want to see France make the final. I think they will but expect it to be tight. I'll say a France win by a goal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,910 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Being forced to leave out Upamecano is a big blessing in disguise for the French, Konate a much more solid looking player.

    My fantasy team is all french leaning - but bloody hell it'd be amazing to see Morocco make the final! Brilliant to see Saiss and Aguerd looking fit enough to start too.

    <edit> looks like Aguerd was pulled out at the last second. Big loss. Lot of pressure on the new fella Dari.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,910 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I'm sure on the business side, the Qatari's will be delighted to have 3 of the lads they own as the marquee players for the respective teams left standing - with Messi, Mbappe, and Hakimi, regardless who of the latter two make the final they'll be able to point towards a successful club project.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,278 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    This will test the Moroccan defence for sure. Looking forwards to it clash of styles. And both sides will be able to insult each other fluently.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,350 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I wish I could but I can't switch my brain from supporting France.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,446 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    I was just coming on to post that, Upamecano is a mistake waiting to happen these days and was bar far their worst performer against England...Konate and Varane is a serious partnership!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    THEO!

    Lovely by Griezmann in the build.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭wanderer100


    Well that didn’t take long

    Could be a long night for Morocco



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    The stupid whistling might stop now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,383 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    That didn't take long. 1-0 France. We'll see what Morocco are made of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Sounds like we need another goal or two for France to stop the awful irritating whistling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,350 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    France are fragile in the back. A team pushing on could get to them as long as they are lucky enough not to get caught on the break.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Delighted Argentina got through and Messi stepped up to the mark again. It would be fitting to see him win a world cup alongside Maradona. His career and insane natural ability deserve it. There are certain things only him and Maradona had the ability to do. It's nearly uncanny how similar they are technically

    I said before the game it would be great to see Argentina really click for the first time in years, proper fluid attacking football that they're known for. Hopefully that penalty was the spark for the shackles to come off, and they bring it to the final. When the Argies get it right, no one can compete technically, would be great to see them lay siege to French defence, if France get there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,383 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Unfamiliar territory for Morocco. Will be interesting to see is their attack as blunt as Croatia's.

    Griezman the main man again and brilliant finish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    You do realise he did not get the Glory he only scored 1 of the 3 goals was a provider for others. Also Messi is a forward he is told to stay up there and there has been games in this world cup where you see him get a ball at half way not as much as Mbappe but does do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Don't know why George keeps saying 'Ounachee' for Ounahi.

    Giroud so close. Post denies him. Saiss doesn't look fit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,910 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    They're looking more solid tonight in terms of formation/selection... only Hernandez of the back 4 is a bit of a defensive liability now, but it looks like they're really playing a 3, with Hernandez pushed up, with Konate, Varane, and Kounde all holding back together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,599 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Were the Moroccan fans doing all that whistling in other games?? I don't remember noticing it. It's nearly making this match unwatchable 😖



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,910 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Gutting for Morocco - from looking like they'd have both Aguerd and Saiss at the back, to now not having either of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭TheRiverman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Never stopped those things in South Africa. Morocco just happy been there so will continue to party



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    So f...ing irritating. I don't recall it happening in their other games.



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