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World Cup 2022 - Team and Match Discussion

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    We’ll have to agree to disagree. I have to watch Everton pass backwards enough, I can’t stand it!

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I politely disagree. They have enough weapons in the middle. If they had a 30 year only Modric though, they’d be unstoppable.


    Maybe I’m getting old and cranky, but there’s a sever lack of quality midfielders at the moment. In his mid thirties there’s very few that can hold a candle to Modric.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,437 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    They were close to being the best team in the tournament. I would say 2nd best easily. But a bit of dirt and cynicism would have helped against Greizmann in particular. A Van Bommel or Baresi would make that team unbeatable.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Actually both van Bommel and Baresi were both underrated footballers. They are remembered as gritty hard men, but both could really play. Baresi in particular was the template for a lot of ball playing defenders that came later.


    Bur yeah, they were great at destroying

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,717 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Modric wouldn't get near that England midfield. He would have been chewed up and spat out by them long ago, they'd have given up on him at 22, too small, not fast enough, the list goes on. Creative midfielders don't last well in the English system.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭adaminho


    I see those and raise you a Ronald Koeman! Knocked England out of USA 94 singlehandedly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I still remember the song about it -

    'Sitting in an Irish bar watching England losing 1-0 to San Marino.

    Gazza's crying thier taking a bruising. Everybody's singing Cheerio.

    Ronald Koeman's become a national hero, scoreline Holland 2 - England zero. Everybody's singing Cheerio'

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,709 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Is Franco Baresi underrated... Is he not widely regarded as one of the best defenders of all time?

    When I think of the great Milan team of the last eighties and early nineties, Baresi comes to mind straight away. A d they were one of the most famous football teams in the world ever. Milan retired his jersey number when he retired from playing. And they voted him Player of the 20th Century.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,437 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I think he means underrated with the ball at his feet.

    He did as the poster said help reinvent the CB position by combining the position with the sweeper and freeing up a player to move further up the pitch.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    He’s very highly rated as a hard man defender. But people seem to forget how good he was with the ball, he had a passing range most central midfielders couldn’t emulate. He was pure class in every way

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    It would be great to see the little genius reach another World Cup final...best of luck to Luka Modric.

    Croatian midfield has the edge imo but Argentina look like they have more threat in attack. I also don't see Croatia getting much luck with the decisions tonight. I'll say Argentina to win it but I hope not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,437 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I think we all know who Messi is at this stage.

    Any chance a pundit could tell us about any other Argentinian player ?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I don’t really care who wins tonight. I want either Messi or Modric to win the World Cup though. 2 of my favourite players ever.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    What channel are you watching. It’s all about Croatia on RTE2

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,611 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Foul on Sosa goes unpunished...hopefully not a sign of things to come.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Messi, whinger of the game so far.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭Esse85


    All coming down the Croatian left so far. Scrappy game so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭Damien360


    25mins in. Is that the first shot ? Can’t remember one before that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Lovely play from Kovacic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Modric edges it for me. Just gets on with it no fuss. But yet is often an afterthought as people debate Ronaldo v Messi.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Pity with one of the greatest midfield players ever in the history of the game,Croatia are so average up front.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,844 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Penalty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Argentina penalty.

    Messi scores.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Why is the keeper getting a yellow ? Went for the ball and clearly it’s a clash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,437 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Joke of a decision. What's the keeper supposed to do like.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,844 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Fine penalty, Rocket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Some penalty. Wow



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Not sure how that's a pen. What is the keeper meant to do? Alvarez ran into him



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