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Strumms · 11-12-2022 03:27AM

Morocco… they play a horrible brand of football… yes they have laudable aspects, brilliant work rate, intensity, speed and they work for each other…. But they play a 6-4-0 type of formation, dive at any given opportunity, kick balls away and not take requisite yards when their opponents have a free, constantly in the referees ear and crowding him over the most innocuous stuff plus.. we saw the antics of their subs, officials, coaches and management on the sidelines… they had about a dozen people miles out of the technical area on the sidelines, a foot from play....the fourth official must have given up and gone home..

I personally hope France rip them a new one… France get off to a good start 2-0 up after 20 minutes, playing a bit of keep ball… one touch passing, bit of Griezmann pace and showboating… Morocco will lose the plot…

zvone · 11-12-2022 06:19AM

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Croatia overpowered in Moscow?!

Possession was 66% - 34% for Croatia

Shoots was 14 - 7 for Croatia

Corners 6 -2 for Croatia

Pass success percentage 83 - 69 for Croatia

etc etc...

Croatia lost 4:2 but totally overpowered? Definitely not.

Anyway, everybody forgetting group phase from Russia when Croatia trash Argentina 3:0.

Very strange that bookies favoured Argentina so much but its good for us. We play best when we are underdogs.

I can see replay of last final game,

Croatia vs France

EltonJohn69 · 11-12-2022 10:31AM

That was two very exciting days…. My life now feels very very empty

were there two quarter finals a day in previous world cups ?

growleaves · 11-12-2022 10:46AM

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In theory it could have gone the other way.

But the fact that France were playing badly and were there for the taking and England still choked is what is wrong with England. They're missing iron self-belief or a charismatic leader or some kind of sticking power.

They lose big decisive games they should win with last-second mistakes or wrong choices. We've seen this over and over.

walshb · 11-12-2022 10:59AM

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I believe so.

martingriff · 11-12-2022 11:07AM

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So there playing to there strengths not trying to get beaten and win. Just like we tried in 1990 and 94. You want them to play expansive football and get hammered just for your enjoyment.

martingriff · 11-12-2022 11:10AM

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Ya I thought for a bit this World Cup was in a shorter time frame but looked up previous and nope same length

Cluedo Monopoly · 11-12-2022 11:11AM

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Great post

11-12-2022 11:16AM

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He even sounds english.

AyeGer · 11-12-2022 12:13PM

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Even worse than Ronnie was Stadler. How did he get the job as football pundit anyway? We’re there no other applicants.

briany · 11-12-2022 01:38PM

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There is only one type of good football and that is winning football. If the style you play wins you games on a consistent basis, it is a good style. If it doesn't, then it is not. It's really that simple.

They have the best defensive record of the tournament. One goal that was an OG. Shades of Greece '04, so far.

Mad_maxx · 11-12-2022 01:40PM

I stuck 20 on Morocco last night at 10/1 , none of the other teams are without flaky tendencies, Morocco are Greece 2004 ( which is horrifying)

Fuascailteoir · 11-12-2022 01:55PM

Would love to see Croatia winning this out. Remarkable for a relatively small country to be up there on a consistent basis. That and the fact that Modric is always a standout player in every tournament

TooTired123 · 11-12-2022 02:08PM

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He’s worked all his life in England. Lives in England all his adult life . His kids are English. Grandkids are English. England gave him everything he has. If Irish people want to let Harry Kane and the English team continue to live rent free in their heads forever that’s not Ronnie Whelans problem.

pavb2 · 11-12-2022 02:12PM

I’m enjoying the tournament overall but the two things that irritate me are the commentators fawning over Messi when he gets within 10 feet of the ball and the players crying when they lose which I think has reached new levels this tournament

Swaine · 11-12-2022 03:03PM

Allez Les Bleus!

CalamariFritti · 11-12-2022 03:21PM

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Agreed and I don't think Morocco deserve any bad credit for the way they play and I don't think they resemble Greece 2004 much.

Morocco let the opponent make their play. They sit back a bit. But they defend aggressively and when they have it they don't just hoof it out. They play it out from the back, tight spaces and they do it quickly and with loads of skill often leading to very dangerous breaks. I like watching that.

Star Bingo · 11-12-2022 03:37PM

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If there's any justice .. there's not but Luka is a sight to behold the last true artisan, the flowing tresses constantly moving his head on a pivot. The great conductor dictating the play, the central cog to the machinery all around.

-always instrumental man once asked me where is modric I said everywhere; you fool open your eyes. Not one to prey on the fringes, failing to rubber stamp his influence on a match hoping to steal in a forgotten man for one headlining moment. With so many otherwise athletes flooding to "the game" now the lure of the cash money ahead of any great love it feels like this WC is the last of the true 10s so let's savour it. One match overwhelmingly...

cuttingtimber22 · 11-12-2022 07:50PM

What’s the yellow card rule in terms of carrying from game to game?

Man Vs ManUre · 11-12-2022 08:17PM

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Yellows are cancelled now for the semi finals. I don’t think any player is missing next game due to 2 yellows. But I guess the Morocco lad who got sent off for the 2 yellows will miss the semi final.

Strumms · 11-12-2022 08:37PM

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I was at our matches in New York in ‘ 94 we didn’t get up to any of that craic… our style was not an open one but we played good, honest football on the pitch and the sideline.

not asking them to be expansive, but to play football and quit the unsportsmanlike antics.

pgj2015 · 11-12-2022 08:51PM

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He gave himself everything he has, not England.

Captain_Crash · 11-12-2022 09:15PM

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Not quite, if a player got a second yellow of the tourney in the QF then he’ll miss the SF, but if a player only has one yellow going into the SF then the card is cancelled and a subsequent yellow during the SF won’t result in the final being missed. The red card your man got tho stands.

Dreamweapon · 11-12-2022 09:34PM

I'm enjoying that players seem to have rediscovered the joy of goal scoring. I've been heartily sick the past few years of the ball hitting the back of the net only for the goalscorer to look absolutely miserable about it. Or just standing there too cool for school. Not in this tournament, players going mental, running off around the pitch screaming their heads off. Proper order.

Probably an unpopular opinion but I always think a tournament is more interesting while England are in it.

I'd also get a great kick out of Dejan Lovren being a World Cup winner.

11-12-2022 09:38PM

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The shitbird Argies vs the aggro arguing Moroccans would be a drama showdown for sure.

(not that I want that final)

dxhound2005 · 11-12-2022 09:56PM

Argentina Marcos Acuna (suspended) Gonzalo Montiel (suspended)

Morocco Walid Cheddira (Suspened)

Argentina only had those two on yellow cards going into the Holland game, both against Mexico. Three other games with no yellows. That does not chime with their reputation for foul play. The teams that played Argentina had a toal of 13 yellows, 6 of those being picked up by the Saudis from the 67th minute in the heroic defence of their 2 - 1 lead.

But it went pear shaped for Argentina in the Dutch game, picking up 9 yellows. Acuna and Montiel should have known better.

TooTired123 · 11-12-2022 10:47PM

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If he hadn’t had England to go to then where would he have gone? This is the reality for literally millions of Irish people.

11-12-2022 10:54PM

Argentina have been at 4 less world cups than Brazil and 2 less than Germany (and played a lot less matches than both at 86 vs 114 and 112) so it can be said that they are the dirtiest world cup team in history safely enough imo in terms of the big teams

When they go full shitbird Argie which is certainly not every match but when they do it they will put on a performance like against the Dutch (and that was with a ref who was licking the hole off Messi)

Holland are certainly up there also but the Argies take the crown for me.

https://blog.betvictor.com/campaigns/dirtiest-world-cup-teams/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup_records_and_statistics#Overall_team_records

dxhound2005 · 11-12-2022 11:17PM

Without knowing the full nature of the cautions and sendings off, it is not possible to declare a team the dirtiest. Unless dissent, time wasting, kicking the ball away, encroaching on a free kick and the like are regared as dirty play. And it is not clear from the list whether coaching staff who got yellows and reds are included in the stats.

Jack Daw · 11-12-2022 11:21PM

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France,Germany,Italy,Spain,Belgium,Netherlands,Portugal, they all had good quality professional leagues back in Ronnie Whelans day so I imagine without England to play in he'd have been OK.

I thought Hamilton and Whelan were ridiculously biased last night, I'd maybe expect biased coverage like that when Ireland are playing (and even that would be hard to listen to but more understandable) but I thought it was cringe-worthy from both of them last night.

I should also clarify that I find biased coverage in general hard to listen to not just from the English soccer media but also from the Rugby media in this country (they are more guilt of it than our soccer media) who are obsessed with hyping up our rugby team to excessive levels that it almost turns you completely off them.

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Argentina Marcos Acuna (suspended) Gonzalo Montiel (suspended)

Morocco Walid Cheddira (Suspened)